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The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.

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  • jon-nycJ Online
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    jon-nyc
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    You would expect something like this:

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    But instead we have something like this:

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    Possible reasons explored here.

    https://thebulwark.com/the-curious-case-of-the-people-who-want-to-reopen-america-but-not-wear-masks/

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      Loki
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      #2

      How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

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      • L Loki

        How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

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        @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

        How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

        It is Trump sized.

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        • MikM Away
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          Mik
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          Yuuuge!

          Actually there are a lot of folks in my area rebelling against masks. Even as a local nursing home just had a breakout of 55 positive residents.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Horace
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            It's debatable whether a small number of people not wearing masks is even a bad thing. But those who enjoy the process of pointing and giggling at their fellow man will point and giggle at their fellow man. That much is certain. Personally, I am happy they have such amusements to help pass their days.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • AxtremusA Axtremus

              @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

              It is Trump sized.

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              @Axtremus said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

              How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

              It is Trump sized.

              Interesting. No one I know won’t wear a mask. I guess I know of no Trump supporters.

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              • Doctor PhibesD Online
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                Doctor Phibes
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                Our return to work plan is going to require that we wear masks at all times.

                I'd be considerably more productive if I worked from home.

                I was only joking

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                  Horace
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                  My company is making a return to work strictly optional for those who are able to do their job from home. I will not be returning on a regular basis until I am told I have to.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • L Loki

                    How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

                    jon-nycJ Online
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                    jon-nyc
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                    @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                    How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

                    How big it gets I think will depend on right wing media. Will they cover them as freedom fighters or kooks?

                    Only non-witches get due process.

                    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      Our return to work plan is going to require that we wear masks at all times.

                      I'd be considerably more productive if I worked from home.

                      MikM Away
                      MikM Away
                      Mik
                      wrote on last edited by Mik
                      #10

                      @Doctor-Phibes said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                      Our return to work plan is going to require that we wear masks at all times.

                      I'd be considerably more productive if I worked from home.

                      I'd just tell them that is your plan. Then ask them what is the benefit to being in person that could possibly outweigh the risk of virus transmission? Masks make it safer, not safe. Might want to get your team all singing the same tune.

                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        Still looking for how big the anti-mask movement really is? So far seems like the issue is cannon fodder for rhetorical arguments. Where is the science around how big the anti-mask movement really is????

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                        • jon-nycJ Online
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                          jon-nyc
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                          #12

                          I don’t know.

                          The relevant questions are:

                          1. How big will it get?

                          2. How big does it have to be to become epidemiologically significant?

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            Doctor Phibes
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                            #13

                            I for one do not have a good feeling about what's going to happen this summer.

                            Westerners do not appear to have a good tolerance for medium-term discomfort.

                            I was only joking

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              I don’t know.

                              The relevant questions are:

                              1. How big will it get?

                              2. How big does it have to be to become epidemiologically significant?

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                              Larry
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                              @jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                              The relevant questions are:

                              1. How big will it get?

                              That's what she said...

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                                In my area nearly everybody is wearing masks. I'm an outlier in that when I walk my dog I don't wear one. I do when I go to the store.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                  Doctor Phibes
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                                  I don't wear a mask walking the dog, but I take one with me just in case. We wear them if we go shopping.

                                  I was only joking

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                                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                    @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                    How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

                                    How big it gets I think will depend on right wing media. Will they cover them as freedom fighters or kooks?

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                                    @jon-nyc said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                    @Loki said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                    How big is the group that won’t wear masks? Is it KKK or Antifa sized?

                                    How big it gets I think will depend on right wing media. Will they cover them as freedom fighters or kooks?

                                    Maybe the left wing media will cover them as well organized forces subverting our American institutions, just like they cover Nazis and the KKK.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                      Copper
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                                      At what point will it be OK to not wear masks?

                                      When nobody in the whole world has the COVID-19?

                                      When fewer than a million Americans have it?

                                      When 91 percent of everyone in the USA has received the vaccine?

                                      When we get tired of masks?

                                      When a democrat is elected president?

                                      Without some sort of measurement I don't see how wearing or not wearing the mask can be right or wrong. This is just a bunch of virtuous emotional outbursts.

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                                        Horace
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                                        @Copper said in The curious case of the people who want to reopen America but not wear masks.:

                                        Without some sort of measurement I don't see how wearing or not wearing the mask can be right or wrong. This is just a bunch of virtuous emotional outbursts.

                                        Yes the modern left has successfully fetishised the idea of having strong emotional reactions to things, of course as long as they're the correct things to have strong emotional reactions to. I'm pretty sure it goes against every historical precept of a stable civilization, to be encouraging people to go around looking for stuff to flip out over.

                                        Education is extremely important.

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                                          Horace
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                                          By the way, those fetishised emotional reactions have been re-labeled by the left as "compassion".

                                          I sometimes wonder if the folk proudest of their compassion spent their childhoods huddled in a corner afraid of the word and as adults finally found a way to reframe their weakness as a strength.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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