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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
    wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Just got Fioptics installed with Cincinnati Bell. Getting about 100-150 mbps download but the upload speed is nearly as fast. With Spectrum it was about 10-20% f download speed.

    The nice thing is all our TV is now wireless. We have boxes, but no cable other than the internet entering the house. This is a very good thing because our cable configuration was a real Frankenstein construction. We had internet coming in one place, TV coming in on a cable that ran all the way around the back of the house and then with repeaters and splitters and stuff that had to be kept plugged in in the basement or all TV would not work. What a mess.

    So far it is running flawlessly with two TVs streaming, two laptops running, two iPhones connected and two iPads.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #16

      I continue to be happy with T-Mobile's service.

      I had a period on Saturday evening when speed dropped to about 14-15 download. Certainly slow, but fast enough for streaming some live TV and casual web surfing. Of course the aforementioned German stuff was out of the question.

      I got on their forum and asked about variable speeds, and the general consensus is that placement of the tower is fussy. Moving it as little as two feet can make a huge difference in speed, as can other factors. I moved my tower one foot to the right, and rotated it 90 degrees. Since doing that, I'm consistently faster than 300 Mbps. Usually faster than 400 Mbps.

      I called Comcast Xfinity yesterday to downgrade my internet speed to the lowest tier possible (50 Mbps), saving about $30 a month. I'll probably keep our TV package because Mrs. George likes to surf, and that's difficult when you're streaming from individual apps.
      When I told them I was going to downgrade, the very pleasant lady wondered if it would be fast enough for my needs. I told her about T-Mobile and the price and she was shocked. Then she tried to sell me Xfinity mobile (cell service). I told her I'm getting 10Gigs/month for $20. She said they couldn't match that, and wanted to know my cell provider, LOL.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        George K
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        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • MikM Offline
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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #18

          So far our switch to all wireless TV has been seamless and cut our bill in half. Winning.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Horace
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            Last weekend I had fiber installed. AT&T cold-called me Wednesday, made the offer to upgrade my house, and set the appointment up for Friday. I have a new hole in my house now where the fiber comes in, and my speeds are 300 mbps reliably. That's the lowest tier they offer, for $50/month. It's plenty.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • MikM Offline
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              Mik
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              Hooked up to the router I get about 330mbps. On wireless it's more like140, which is plenty. On Spectrum I got about 200 on wireless, but I don't notice any difference.

              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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              • MikM Mik

                Hooked up to the router I get about 330mbps. On wireless it's more like140, which is plenty. On Spectrum I got about 200 on wireless, but I don't notice any difference.

                George KG Offline
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                George K
                wrote on last edited by
                #21

                @mik said in Cord cutting:

                On wireless it's more like140, which is plenty.

                That's the thing, the cable providers make you think you need all this bandwidth. But, you don't. In fact, when I've dipped below 50, I haven't noticed a thing.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Just got Fioptics installed with Cincinnati Bell. Getting about 100-150 mbps download but the upload speed is nearly as fast. With Spectrum it was about 10-20% f download speed.

                  The nice thing is all our TV is now wireless. We have boxes, but no cable other than the internet entering the house. This is a very good thing because our cable configuration was a real Frankenstein construction. We had internet coming in one place, TV coming in on a cable that ran all the way around the back of the house and then with repeaters and splitters and stuff that had to be kept plugged in in the basement or all TV would not work. What a mess.

                  So far it is running flawlessly with two TVs streaming, two laptops running, two iPhones connected and two iPads.

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                  xenon
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                  @mik said in Cord cutting:

                  The nice thing is all our TV is now wireless.

                  I hear that.

                  My TV's and media units look nice and tidy. Not a wire out of place in the house. I got 3 of those mesh routers in my house - full wifi coverage.

                  I'm only getting 30% of my max speed in most places in the house - but my max speed is so high that it makes zero practical difference to me.

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                    kluurs
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                    #23

                    We're on Comcrap as well - decent speed - but doesn't seem that wonderful compared to some of your best times.

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                      taiwan_girl
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                      #24

                      I get 3-5 Mbps. 😢 😢 😢 😢 😢

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                      • JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
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                        #25

                        Cord cutting around here...

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                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        • George KG Offline
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                          George K
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #26

                          2 ½ months out, it remains pretty good. Download speeds are almost always >350. This morning, I was up to 500. In the 2 ½ months, I had a few (<7) days with slow speeds. Probably slow enough to affect streaming, but fast enough for routine browsing.

                          I've had to restart the gateway once because of a dropped connection.

                          Otherwise, it's been fast, robust and cheap.

                          My only criticism is that the gateway has only one ethernet "out" port. If you have several things that need your network (like a Phillips Hue hub), you're gonna need a router - which I have.

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • MikM Offline
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                            wrote on last edited by
                            #27

                            Our Fioptics has been totally trouble free, even with two tvs streaming and multiple devices in use. Very satisfied.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • George KG George K

                              2 ½ months out, it remains pretty good. Download speeds are almost always >350. This morning, I was up to 500. In the 2 ½ months, I had a few (<7) days with slow speeds. Probably slow enough to affect streaming, but fast enough for routine browsing.

                              I've had to restart the gateway once because of a dropped connection.

                              Otherwise, it's been fast, robust and cheap.

                              My only criticism is that the gateway has only one ethernet "out" port. If you have several things that need your network (like a Phillips Hue hub), you're gonna need a router - which I have.

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                              xenon
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                              #28

                              @george-k said in Cord cutting:

                              My only criticism is that the gateway has only one ethernet "out" port. If you have several things that need your network (like a Phillips Hue hub), you're gonna need a router - which I have.

                              George, you need one of these:

                              https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07S98YLHM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=unmanaged%2Bswitch%2Bnetgear&qid=1639013050&sr=8-3&th=1

                              It turns a single ethernet port into multiple ports (think of it like an extension bar for ethernet)

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                                @george-k said in Cord cutting:

                                My only criticism is that the gateway has only one ethernet "out" port. If you have several things that need your network (like a Phillips Hue hub), you're gonna need a router - which I have.

                                George, you need one of these:

                                https://www.amazon.com/NETGEAR-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Unmanaged/dp/B07S98YLHM/ref=sr_1_3?keywords=unmanaged%2Bswitch%2Bnetgear&qid=1639013050&sr=8-3&th=1

                                It turns a single ethernet port into multiple ports (think of it like an extension bar for ethernet)

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                                George K
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                                #29

                                @xenon thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep that in mind for the future should I need it.

                                I had a router with my other service, so I just repurposed that.

                                But...what you linked to is basically, just like a USB hub?

                                (I've wondered about "ethernet switches" for a while)

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                • George KG George K

                                  @xenon thanks for the suggestion. I'll keep that in mind for the future should I need it.

                                  I had a router with my other service, so I just repurposed that.

                                  But...what you linked to is basically, just like a USB hub?

                                  (I've wondered about "ethernet switches" for a while)

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                                  xenon
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                                  #30

                                  @george-k said in Cord cutting:

                                  But...what you linked to is basically, just like a USB hub?

                                  Yes, essentially.

                                  You feed the ethernet from your wireless gateway into one of the ports on the switch, then all of the other ports become ethernet jacks for the same network. No software or hooking it up to a computer.

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                                    @copper said in Cord cutting:

                                    T-Mobile 5g advertising is about 100 Mbps

                                    How do you get 490 Mbps?

                                    Just guessing - George may be lucky.

                                    Much harder to estimate what any individual customer may get similar to a wired connection - they probably advertise a floor rather than a ceiling for a wireless connection.

                                    Signal strength drops off exponentially with distance from the source - so guessing George lives close to a tower.

                                    It may make sense for them to limit the speed in the future if their backhaul gets saturated.

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                                    Klaus
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                                    #31

                                    @xenon said in Cord cutting:

                                    Signal strength drops off exponentiallyquadratically with distance from the source - so guessing George lives close to a tower.

                                    FIFY.

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                                      @copper said in Cord cutting:

                                      T-Mobile 5g advertising is about 100 Mbps

                                      How do you get 490 Mbps?

                                      Just guessing - George may be lucky.

                                      Much harder to estimate what any individual customer may get similar to a wired connection - they probably advertise a floor rather than a ceiling for a wireless connection.

                                      Signal strength drops off exponentially with distance from the source - so guessing George lives close to a tower.

                                      It may make sense for them to limit the speed in the future if their backhaul gets saturated.

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                                      George K
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                                      @xenon said in Cord cutting:

                                      George lives close to a tower.

                                      I just checked T-Mobile's 5G map. There are 3 towers within half a mile or so. My gateway faces west.

                                      Screen Shot 2021-12-09 at 6.22.22 AM.png

                                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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