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@jolly said in The New Civility ...:
Oh, here's where you're wrong...Those are college students. Who are more liberal than college students?
Uh, depends on the college. Liberty ain't no liberal haven. Neither is BYU.
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@catseye3 said in The New Civility ...:
Fuck anybody clueless enough to think shouting Fuck So-and-So is an effective solution to fixing what is wrong with the country.
(Assuming the fuck-shouters actually want to fix what is wrong, which I've about concluded they don't.)
Thank God you aren't in a position of any kind of responsibility.
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@george-k said in The New Civility ...:
No, you can't pee in peace.
https://www.azleg.gov/ars/13/03019.htm
13-3019. Surreptitious photographing, videotaping, filming or digitally recording or viewing; exemptions; classification; definitions
A. It is unlawful for any person to knowingly photograph, videotape, film, digitally record or by any other means secretly view, with or without a device, another person without that person’s consent under either of the following circumstances:
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In a restroom, bathroom, locker room, bedroom or other location where the person has a reasonable expectation of privacy and the person is urinating, defecating, dressing, undressing, nude or involved in sexual intercourse or sexual contact.
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In a manner that directly or indirectly captures or allows the viewing of the person’s genitalia, buttock or female breast, whether clothed or unclothed, that is not otherwise visible to the public.
B. It is unlawful to disclose, display, distribute or publish a photograph, videotape, film or digital recording made in violation of subsection A of this section without the consent or knowledge of the person depicted.
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https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/10/chasing-kyrsten-sinema-into-a-bathroom-is-not-normal/
The condemnation was . . . well, non-existent. Reporting on the incident, Newsweek led with the fact that, as of last night, the video had “been viewed 4 million times on social media.” At the Washington Post, the key takeaway was that “frustration over Sen. Kyrsten Sinema’s refusal to fall in line with other Senate Democrats and pass legislation central to President Biden’s agenda” had “boiled over.” On Twitter, meanwhile, the Daily Beast contended merely that Sinema had “locked herself in [the] bathroom to avoid young activists.”
Which isn’t really the story here, is it? The unusual feature of Sinema’s visit to the toilet was not that she “locked” the door while she used the facilities, but that she was pursued by a rabble of agitators wielding camera-phones and speaking in declarative slogans. Where I come from, “avoiding” others while using the lavatory is standard procedure. Being followed into the lavatory by angry crowds is not.
One imagines that this might be more obvious if the politics were slightly different. If, instead of a left-winger berating a moderate Democrat in the loo, a right-winger had berated a moderate Republican, it would have been the biggest news of the year. Within minutes, the occurrence would have had a name — the “Arizona Attack,” perhaps. Within a day, it would have been deemed to be representative of everything that was wrong with the American Right — and with the United States itself. Within a week, we would have been drowning in breathless TV segments, tendentious op-eds, and mawkish lectures about the sanctity of democracy in America.
I can hear the rhetoric now. Change a handful of inconvenient details, and this incident would be cast as an attack on “women,” on “the LGBT community,” and on “our democracy itself.” Put the motivating criticisms in the mouth of Tucker Carlson, instead of Chris Hayes, and the episode would be widely held as “the logical endpoint of the climate of hatred that has been whipped up.” Attribute the passion to a MAGA type instead of a progressive, and it would be said to “evoke the painful memories of January 6.” Noting the event, the Washington Post concluded that it was “representative of the dissatisfaction that many Arizona Democrats — and Democrats across the country — have voiced over Sinema’s resistance toward the reconciliation bill.” Is there anyone alive who believes that the Post would have been this sanguine if the roles had been reversed?
Throughout the Trump years, journalists who claimed that they were concerned with the maintenance of political decorum took to intoning “This. Is. Not Normal” whenever news of a fresh departure crossed the transom. Today, with Trump out office and the Democratic Party fully in charge of D.C., we are watching as progressive activists corner senators in their commodes, surround legislators’ boats with kayaks, and organize the harassment of sitting Supreme Court justices. Did they mean it? Or did they just want the space cleared for themselves?