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  • L Offline
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    Loki
    wrote on last edited by
    #66

    I will check back in this thread in a week to see if any predictions are right. Kind of reminds me of how the media handled Trump and the winning ticket was to predict whether their story had legs a week later and you could generally say no and be a big winner.

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    • JollyJ Jolly

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      Loki
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      #67

      @jolly said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

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      Now that’s very funny but not for the reasons you think.

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        Jolly
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        Shifting from carrot to stick...

        https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2021/09/10/exasperated_biden_shifts_from_carrot_to_stick_146387.html

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • George KG George K

          @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

          I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

          Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

          An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

          Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

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          Mik
          wrote on last edited by
          #69

          @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

          @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

          I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

          Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

          An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

          Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

          Exactly.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • L Loki

            I will check back in this thread in a week to see if any predictions are right. Kind of reminds me of how the media handled Trump and the winning ticket was to predict whether their story had legs a week later and you could generally say no and be a big winner.

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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by
            #70

            @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

            Kind of reminds me of how the media handled Trump and the winning ticket was to predict whether their story had legs a week later and you could generally say no and be a big winner.

            Along with 90% of the rest of them.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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            • George KG George K

              @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

              Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

              An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

              Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

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              Loki
              wrote on last edited by
              #71

              @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

              I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

              Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

              An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

              Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

              You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

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                Mik
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                #72

                I just bowed out of anther conversation where the shouts of 'tyranny! tyranny!' became overwhelming. It's not tyranny. It's overstepping authority, which is nothing new in America.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • MikM Mik

                  I just bowed out of anther conversation where the shouts of 'tyranny! tyranny!' became overwhelming. It's not tyranny. It's overstepping authority, which is nothing new in America.

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                  Doctor Phibes
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                  #73

                  @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                  I just bowed out of anther conversation where the shouts of 'tyranny! tyranny!' became overwhelming. It's not tyranny. It's overstepping authority, which is nothing new in America.

                  The main issue that worries me nowadays is how much influence complete idiots have in public debates. That's what's changed in the last 20 years. In the past, people had to actually do something to get heard. Now they just log on and started spouting shit.

                  I was only joking

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                  • L Loki

                    @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                    Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                    An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                    Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                    You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

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                    LuFins Dad
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #74

                    @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                    I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                    Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                    An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                    Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                    You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

                    You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                    The Brad

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                    • L Loki

                      I will check back in this thread in a week to see if any predictions are right. Kind of reminds me of how the media handled Trump and the winning ticket was to predict whether their story had legs a week later and you could generally say no and be a big winner.

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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #75

                      @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                      I will check back in this thread in a week to see if any predictions are right.

                      Which predictions are you going to check? In all fairness, you tend to see predictions where none exist. Can you be clear about the predictions you see in this thread which will be proven true or false in a week?

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                        @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                        @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                        I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                        Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                        An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                        Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                        You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

                        You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #76

                        @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                        You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                        I got vaccinated. My family all got vaccinated.

                        It strikes me that if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

                        I was only joking

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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #77

                          Turns out, all that nonsensical TDS that infected the culture over the past four years, solidified some resentments and now, if you're going to look those people in the eye and try to shame them into doing something they don't really feel like doing, based on the principle that now it's YOUR life at stake, you'll be given the middle finger. This is life. Or death. It's all on the table.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • MikM Mik

                            @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                            Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                            An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                            Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                            Exactly.

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #78

                            @mik said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                            I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                            Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                            An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                            Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                            Exactly.

                            Dr. Biden wanted to go full Australian, it was rumored.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                              @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                              You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                              I got vaccinated. My family all got vaccinated.

                              It strikes me that if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

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                              Catseye3
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #79

                              @doctor-phibes said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                              if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

                              This is why privacy has no place in the vax debate. I'm a big proponent of privacy, but when contagion dominates, there cannot by definition be privacy considerations. If you want to live among people, get vaccinated. Otherwise go live on the moon.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                                I got vaccinated. My family all got vaccinated.

                                It strikes me that if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

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                                Jolly
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #80

                                @doctor-phibes said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                                I got vaccinated. My family all got vaccinated.

                                It strikes me that if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

                                So what. Most people are vaccinated. And more were getting vaccinated every day, even as we learned the "vaccine" is ephemeral.

                                Some principles are worth planting a flag on a hill and dying over. Perhaps that is the difference between citizens and subjects.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                  @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                                  Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                                  An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                                  Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                                  You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

                                  You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                                  JollyJ Offline
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                                  Jolly
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #81

                                  @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @george-k said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  @loki said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                  I think the way to look at it is comparing to public health crises in the past.

                                  Such as what? Polio, AIDS, Ebola? What were the federal government mandates during that crisis, or any other of your choosing?

                                  An aside, what, exactly, are the plans for implementing this? Are we going to need a(nother) federal agency to monitor, record, and punish those who don't comply?

                                  Words are cheap, enacting them is hard.

                                  You know there are big issues going on. A segment of people can’t even prioritize our public health and our economy and want to make this the burning platform. Mark this as another reason why America is not what it used to be. Small ball.

                                  You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                                  Most have no more principles than a whore on Saturday night, after the fleet docks.

                                  That s the end result of situational ethics and the lack of grounding in the modern person's life.

                                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @doctor-phibes said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    @lufins-dad said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    You know, the bigger the issue, the more important it is to hold true to your principles.

                                    I got vaccinated. My family all got vaccinated.

                                    It strikes me that if people spent less time going on about their fucking principles and just got vaccinated, we'd all be a lot better off.

                                    So what. Most people are vaccinated. And more were getting vaccinated every day, even as we learned the "vaccine" is ephemeral.

                                    Some principles are worth planting a flag on a hill and dying over. Perhaps that is the difference between citizens and subjects.

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                                    Doctor Phibes
                                    wrote on last edited by
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                                    @jolly said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                    Some principles are worth planting a flag on a hill and dying over.

                                    Yeah, and some aren't.

                                    The problem is a lot of people can't seem to tell the difference.

                                    As Mik said, this isn't tyranny, it's government over-reach. People need to be smart enough to understand the difference.

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                      Maybe he’s just baiting the GOP to go full anti-vax so they’ll get crushed in the suburbs

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                                      Larry
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #83

                                      @jon-nyc said in Biden to mandate vaccination or weekly testing for companies over 100 employees:

                                      Maybe he’s just baiting the GOP to go full anti-vax so they’ll get crushed in the suburbs

                                      Interesting how you and most other democrats work so hard at associating antivaxers with republicans. A recent survey shows that the two largest groups to be anti vaccine are 1. Blacks and 2. People with Phd's. Neither group are known for being Republican.

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                                        Mik
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                                        #84

                                        Yeah, I'm in one with my brother who states that fossil fuel industry and the GOP are why we don't have wind-power supplied railroads like the Netherlands. Those are his two default boogeymen for any given issue.

                                        Never mind the fact that the Netherlands trains do NOT run primarily on wind power, that the county is less than one half a percent the size of America and that their railroad system is owned by the government versus ours which is not.

                                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                          Mik
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                                          Also interesting was that he condemned the GOP's slide toward authoritarianism.

                                          On the day after Biden threatened people's livelihoods if they don't take the shot. Jesus, he is blinded.

                                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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