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How to end the pandemic in a month

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  • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad
    1. Do the jokes and the insults do a single damn thing to get another shot in the arm? No, they don’t. Do they hinder getting another shot in the arm? Yes, they do. Quite a lot. So keep yucking it up. It’s so very helpful.

    An interesting aside. I’ve not really found any or many anti-COVID vaccine individuals that find it amusing or entertaining when a vaccinated person gets serious COVID complications. I can’t say that from the other side.

    1. 52% of adults are fully vaccinated. Wow, that’s an overwhelming majority 🙄 Of that 52% you also have Jolly and myself, fully vaccinated but extremely opposed to mandates and extreme measures to punish the unvaccinated. I’m not positive, but I think you can probably add Horace and Copper to that list… How many others? My guess? Quite a few. I also wonder what percentage of adult American’s will be “fully vaccinated” in 12 months when they will have likely needed 2 boosters to still be considered fully vaccinated? My guess is there will be some slippage.

    2. The Joe Rogan thing is problematic. He is likely going to be just fine. With Ivermectin or without. However, when/if he is fine, it’s going to be a very public “confirmation” of the powers of Ivermectin… Worse, if he has a serious case of COVID, we will see all of these celebration posts online, causing even more of a divide and more anger.

    3. We all still need to live together. One day this will be (mostly) behind us, and most of the unvaccinated people will still be hale and healthy, and they won’t be that small of a minority. They will have lost jobs because of these current attitudes, will have been ostracized, ridiculed, and more. How does that play out in the long run?

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    @lufins-dad said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

    Do the jokes and the insults do a single damn thing to get another shot in the arm? No, they don’t. Do they hinder getting another shot in the arm? Yes, they do. Quite a lot. So keep yucking it up. It’s so very helpful.

    I agree it's not very helpful, however also there's plenty of asshole behaviour from a number anti-vaxxers calling the rest of the population sheeple, and saying how they're stupidly doing what they're told, despite the overwhelming evidence from mumble, mumble, mumble and that guy who got really sick after the shot.

    And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

    I was only joking

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      Vaccine mandates would be swell if they were applied based on some reasonable calculation.

      I can't imagine that happening during the next few years.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

        @lufins-dad said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

        Do the jokes and the insults do a single damn thing to get another shot in the arm? No, they don’t. Do they hinder getting another shot in the arm? Yes, they do. Quite a lot. So keep yucking it up. It’s so very helpful.

        I agree it's not very helpful, however also there's plenty of asshole behaviour from a number anti-vaxxers calling the rest of the population sheeple, and saying how they're stupidly doing what they're told, despite the overwhelming evidence from mumble, mumble, mumble and that guy who got really sick after the shot.

        And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

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        @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

        And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

        Getting pissed at the people who are by and large creating the biggest and completely avoidable strain on our health system is pretty natural, I think. It still pisses me off, but condemnation isn't going to change any minds, and I don't feel any righteousness from unvaccinated infection horror stories. I just want everybody to be able to ride this shitstorm out.

        That's separate from the fact that a lot of the anti-vaxx nonsense is absolutely hilarious. I mean c'mon, it just is. It's about as humorous as my apparent incompetence with terlets, and I'm not about to take some kind of half-assed "life choice" moral stance on my stupidity there, unnecessary ignorance is always funny.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

          And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

          Getting pissed at the people who are by and large creating the biggest and completely avoidable strain on our health system is pretty natural, I think. It still pisses me off, but condemnation isn't going to change any minds, and I don't feel any righteousness from unvaccinated infection horror stories. I just want everybody to be able to ride this shitstorm out.

          That's separate from the fact that a lot of the anti-vaxx nonsense is absolutely hilarious. I mean c'mon, it just is. It's about as humorous as my apparent incompetence with terlets, and I'm not about to take some kind of half-assed "life choice" moral stance on my stupidity there, unnecessary ignorance is always funny.

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          @aqua-letifer said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

          @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

          And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

          Getting pissed at the people who are by and large creating the biggest and completely avoidable strain on our health system is pretty natural, I think. It still pisses me off, but condemnation isn't going to change any minds, and I don't feel any righteousness from unvaccinated infection horror stories. I just want everybody to be able to ride this shitstorm out.

          That's separate from the fact that a lot of the anti-vaxx nonsense is absolutely hilarious. I mean c'mon, it just is. It's about as humorous as my apparent incompetence with terlets, and I'm not about to take some kind of half-assed "life choice" moral stance on my stupidity there, unnecessary ignorance is always funny.

          I think this captures my sentiment most closely. Yeah I started this thread with a snarky quote but it is certainly no worse than what is said of Hillary and Biden as examples. Not clear to me why some things are flagged as out of bounds.

          I certainly don’t want to alienate anyone so that is a fair comment.

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            There's a British friend-of-a-friend on FB who is seriously anti-vax. Real 'Plandemic' type - denies there's any such thing as Covid, posted pictures of Bill Gates with a hangman's noose next to it, all kinds of stuff about the vaccination is going to kill us all.

            I check in on her page quite frequently for entertainment purposes, but it's quite disturbing just how many people 'like' and respond positively to her comments, and if I follow her 'Friends' chain, it gets genuinely quite disturbing. There seems to be a large group of 'semi-professional musicians' (i.e. unemployed people with guitars), and landscape gardeners who freaking know everything about Covid. And when I say 'large group', yes, there are freaking lots of them.

            And before anybody says I shouldn't be laughing at them, the stuff they say about people like me is pretty fucking rude. Anybody who even politely challenges their claims is condescended to and patronised.

            I was only joking

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              There's a British friend-of-a-friend on FB who is seriously anti-vax. Real 'Plandemic' type - denies there's any such thing as Covid, posted pictures of Bill Gates with a hangman's noose next to it, all kinds of stuff about the vaccination is going to kill us all.

              I check in on her page quite frequently for entertainment purposes, but it's quite disturbing just how many people 'like' and respond positively to her comments, and if I follow her 'Friends' chain, it gets genuinely quite disturbing. There seems to be a large group of 'semi-professional musicians' (i.e. unemployed people with guitars), and landscape gardeners who freaking know everything about Covid. And when I say 'large group', yes, there are freaking lots of them.

              And before anybody says I shouldn't be laughing at them, the stuff they say about people like me is pretty fucking rude. Anybody who even politely challenges their claims is condescended to and patronised.

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              @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

              There's a British friend-of-a-friend on FB who is seriously anti-vax. Real 'Plandemic' type - denies there's any such thing as Covid, posted pictures of Bill Gates with a hangman's noose next to it, all kinds of stuff about the vaccination is going to kill us all.

              I check in on her page quite frequently for entertainment purposes, but it's quite disturbing just how many people 'like' and respond positively to her comments, and if I follow her 'Friends' chain, it gets genuinely quite disturbing. There seems to be a large group of 'semi-professional musicians' (i.e. unemployed people with guitars), and landscape gardeners who freaking know everything about Covid. And when I say 'large group', yes, there are freaking lots of them.

              And before anybody says I shouldn't be laughing at them, the stuff they say about people like me is pretty fucking rude. Anybody who even politely challenges their claims is condescended to and patronised.

              Sounds like a leftist political phenotype.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                There's a British friend-of-a-friend on FB who is seriously anti-vax. Real 'Plandemic' type - denies there's any such thing as Covid, posted pictures of Bill Gates with a hangman's noose next to it, all kinds of stuff about the vaccination is going to kill us all.

                I check in on her page quite frequently for entertainment purposes, but it's quite disturbing just how many people 'like' and respond positively to her comments, and if I follow her 'Friends' chain, it gets genuinely quite disturbing. There seems to be a large group of 'semi-professional musicians' (i.e. unemployed people with guitars), and landscape gardeners who freaking know everything about Covid. And when I say 'large group', yes, there are freaking lots of them.

                And before anybody says I shouldn't be laughing at them, the stuff they say about people like me is pretty fucking rude. Anybody who even politely challenges their claims is condescended to and patronised.

                Sounds like a leftist political phenotype.

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                @horace said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                Sounds like a leftist political phenotype.

                No, based on some of their comments, they're not lefties but more libertarian types. There was quite a bit of discussion about stolen elections and putting in the illuminati.

                I was only joking

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                  Probably muslim anti-Trumpists

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    Probably muslim anti-Trumpists

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                    @copper said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                    Probably muslim anti-Trumpists

                    Sadly, she seems to have had most of her stuff blocked by Facebook at this point, which I've been told is a sure sign that she's a Christian pro-Trumper.

                    I was only joking

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                      @aqua-letifer said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                      @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                      And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

                      Getting pissed at the people who are by and large creating the biggest and completely avoidable strain on our health system is pretty natural, I think. It still pisses me off, but condemnation isn't going to change any minds, and I don't feel any righteousness from unvaccinated infection horror stories. I just want everybody to be able to ride this shitstorm out.

                      That's separate from the fact that a lot of the anti-vaxx nonsense is absolutely hilarious. I mean c'mon, it just is. It's about as humorous as my apparent incompetence with terlets, and I'm not about to take some kind of half-assed "life choice" moral stance on my stupidity there, unnecessary ignorance is always funny.

                      I think this captures my sentiment most closely. Yeah I started this thread with a snarky quote but it is certainly no worse than what is said of Hillary and Biden as examples. Not clear to me why some things are flagged as out of bounds.

                      I certainly don’t want to alienate anyone so that is a fair comment.

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                      @loki said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                      @aqua-letifer said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                      @doctor-phibes said in How to end the pandemic in a month:

                      And I have seen some really, really stupid anti-vax shit out there. I'm sure we all have. If I'm not allowed to laugh at that, what is it for?

                      Getting pissed at the people who are by and large creating the biggest and completely avoidable strain on our health system is pretty natural, I think. It still pisses me off, but condemnation isn't going to change any minds, and I don't feel any righteousness from unvaccinated infection horror stories. I just want everybody to be able to ride this shitstorm out.

                      That's separate from the fact that a lot of the anti-vaxx nonsense is absolutely hilarious. I mean c'mon, it just is. It's about as humorous as my apparent incompetence with terlets, and I'm not about to take some kind of half-assed "life choice" moral stance on my stupidity there, unnecessary ignorance is always funny.

                      I think this captures my sentiment most closely. Yeah I started this thread with a snarky quote but it is certainly no worse than what is said of Hillary and Biden as examples. Not clear to me why some things are flagged as out of bounds.

                      I certainly don’t want to alienate anyone so that is a fair comment.

                      The differences between this and the political stuff with Hillary and President Uncle Joe are pretty clear.

                      1. As much as we joke about politics being a blood sport, it isn’t. It’s important, yes, but most people’s lives and long term health aren’t really affected too much by the results.

                      2. People’s livelihoods aren’t generally being threatened based on their Voter Registration status. They aren’t being denied entry to concerts because they are registered independent or didn’t participate in the last election.

                      3. If I’m not a positive influence on one person and their vote… Oh well. If I’m a negative influence on somebody’s decision regarding vaccination, it could affect countless others.

                      The Brad

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