Cruel To Be Kind
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wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 13:33 last edited by Catseye3 9 Feb 2021, 14:28
Excerpts from the Guardian: "A former student who downloaded almost 70,000 white supremacist documents and bomb-making instructions has avoided a prison sentence after being told to read classic literature by Dickens, Austen, Shakespeare and Hardy.
Ben John, 21, from Lincoln, a former student at De Montfort University in Leicester , has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said.
John was identified as a terror risk days after his 18th birthday [and] was convicted of possessing information likely to be useful for preparing an act of terror, which carries a maximum jail sentence of 15 years.
Sentencing him at Leicester crown court, the judge concluded his crime was likely to be “an act of teenage folly” and an isolated incident."
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Austen and Shakespeare, okay. After four months of Dickens and Hardy, the kid will be screaming to be sent to the jug. "Please, no more!" -
Excerpts from the Guardian: "A former student who downloaded almost 70,000 white supremacist documents and bomb-making instructions has avoided a prison sentence after being told to read classic literature by Dickens, Austen, Shakespeare and Hardy.
Ben John, 21, from Lincoln, a former student at De Montfort University in Leicester , has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said.
John was identified as a terror risk days after his 18th birthday [and] was convicted of possessing information likely to be useful for preparing an act of terror, which carries a maximum jail sentence of 15 years.
Sentencing him at Leicester crown court, the judge concluded his crime was likely to be “an act of teenage folly” and an isolated incident."
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Austen and Shakespeare, okay. After four months of Dickens and Hardy, the kid will be screaming to be sent to the jug. "Please, no more!"wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:23 last edited byHe has to read books by white oppressors? I am confused.
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wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:32 last edited by
How are they actually going to regulate that?
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How are they actually going to regulate that?
wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:36 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Cruel To Be Kind:
How are they actually going to regulate that?
He "has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said."
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@aqua-letifer said in Cruel To Be Kind:
How are they actually going to regulate that?
He "has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said."
wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:38 last edited by@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@aqua-letifer said in Cruel To Be Kind:
How are they actually going to regulate that?
He "has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said."
If he can Google "white supremacy," he can Google "Spark Notes."
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@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@aqua-letifer said in Cruel To Be Kind:
How are they actually going to regulate that?
He "has to return to court every four months to be tested on his reading, Judge Timothy Spencer QC said."
If he can Google "white supremacy," he can Google "Spark Notes."
wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:40 last edited by@aqua-letifer So can his testers <Wink>.
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@aqua-letifer So can his testers <Wink>.
wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 14:41 last edited by@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@aqua-letifer So can his testers <Wink>.
Who are government employees.
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@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@aqua-letifer So can his testers <Wink>.
Who are government employees.
wrote on 2 Sept 2021, 16:00 last edited by@aqua-letifer said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
@aqua-letifer So can his testers <Wink>.
Who are government employees.
Point taken.
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wrote on 3 Sept 2021, 11:48 last edited by
Update from the Guardian: "Call for sentence review after neo-Nazi told to read classic literature.
"The attorney general’s office has been asked to review whether an unduly lenient sentence was handed to a neo-Nazi who was ordered to read classic literature such as Pride and Prejudice.
"Amid an outcry, a call for the case to be reviewed was made by the campaign group Hope Not Hate, which said the sentence was unduly lenient and sent a dangerous message at a time when the far right poses Britain’s fastest-growing terror threat.
"“The law officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case and make a decision,” [the attorney general's office] said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/02/call-sentence-review-neo-nazi-told-read-classic-literature
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So a judge's sentence decisions depend on what -- not annoying anybody? -
Update from the Guardian: "Call for sentence review after neo-Nazi told to read classic literature.
"The attorney general’s office has been asked to review whether an unduly lenient sentence was handed to a neo-Nazi who was ordered to read classic literature such as Pride and Prejudice.
"Amid an outcry, a call for the case to be reviewed was made by the campaign group Hope Not Hate, which said the sentence was unduly lenient and sent a dangerous message at a time when the far right poses Britain’s fastest-growing terror threat.
"“The law officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case and make a decision,” [the attorney general's office] said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/02/call-sentence-review-neo-nazi-told-read-classic-literature
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So a judge's sentence decisions depend on what -- not annoying anybody?wrote on 3 Sept 2021, 11:53 last edited by@catseye3 said in Cruel To Be Kind:
Update from the Guardian: "Call for sentence review after neo-Nazi told to read classic literature.
"The attorney general’s office has been asked to review whether an unduly lenient sentence was handed to a neo-Nazi who was ordered to read classic literature such as Pride and Prejudice.
"Amid an outcry, a call for the case to be reviewed was made by the campaign group Hope Not Hate, which said the sentence was unduly lenient and sent a dangerous message at a time when the far right poses Britain’s fastest-growing terror threat.
"“The law officers have 28 days from sentencing to consider the case and make a decision,” [the attorney general's office] said.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2021/sep/02/call-sentence-review-neo-nazi-told-read-classic-literature
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So a judge's sentence decisions depend on what -- not annoying anybody?I think asking the question is fair enough. Would a Muslim extremist of Middle-Eastern ethnicity have received a similarly light sentence?
I know this isn't a very popular thing to say here, but there's no shortage of examples of white, middle-class folks getting off with a slap on the wrist in the UK. Obviously, such a thing would never happen in the US, where as we know everybody hates white people.
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wrote on 6 Sept 2021, 03:36 last edited by
The judge just took his job seriously to give him the dickens.
