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  • MikM Mik

    Here exact words were bizarre.

    CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

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    @mik said in "Mostly Friendly":

    CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

    Not making any excuses for that chant... but sometimes things get lost in translation a bit. There's a common "rally chant" in India that goes something like this:

    <Cause, cause> Zindabad!
    <the opposite of the cause> <the opposite of the cause> Murdabad!

    Zindabad means "long live", and Murdabad means "down with", or literally "death to".

    But someone can be more emphasizing the Zindabad part (and be happy), or emphasizing the Murdabad part (and be angry). But the chant typically needs a cause and a foil.

    Also - "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

    Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

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      @mik said in "Mostly Friendly":

      CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

      Not making any excuses for that chant... but sometimes things get lost in translation a bit. There's a common "rally chant" in India that goes something like this:

      <Cause, cause> Zindabad!
      <the opposite of the cause> <the opposite of the cause> Murdabad!

      Zindabad means "long live", and Murdabad means "down with", or literally "death to".

      But someone can be more emphasizing the Zindabad part (and be happy), or emphasizing the Murdabad part (and be angry). But the chant typically needs a cause and a foil.

      Also - "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

      Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

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      @xenon said in "Mostly Friendly":

      "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

      Thanks for the explanation.

      Nice to know that "death" doesn't really mean "dying," other than extinction of an idea. That make me feel a lot better.

      Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

      LOL.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        @mik said in "Mostly Friendly":

        CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

        Not making any excuses for that chant... but sometimes things get lost in translation a bit. There's a common "rally chant" in India that goes something like this:

        <Cause, cause> Zindabad!
        <the opposite of the cause> <the opposite of the cause> Murdabad!

        Zindabad means "long live", and Murdabad means "down with", or literally "death to".

        But someone can be more emphasizing the Zindabad part (and be happy), or emphasizing the Murdabad part (and be angry). But the chant typically needs a cause and a foil.

        Also - "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

        Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

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        @xenon said in "Mostly Friendly":

        @mik said in "Mostly Friendly":

        CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

        Not making any excuses for that chant... but sometimes things get lost in translation a bit. There's a common "rally chant" in India that goes something like this:

        <Cause, cause> Zindabad!
        <the opposite of the cause> <the opposite of the cause> Murdabad!

        Zindabad means "long live", and Murdabad means "down with", or literally "death to".

        But someone can be more emphasizing the Zindabad part (and be happy), or emphasizing the Murdabad part (and be angry). But the chant typically needs a cause and a foil.

        Also - "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

        Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

        Not worried about the terrorists. I was commenting on a female CNN reporter who is saying the Taliban appear friendly in English? Again are you fucking serious that a woman in the US today could get away with that comment on arguably the most brutal regime towards women in existence on the planet.

        To further make my point, I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women. Compare and contrast Taliban to Cuomo regarding the treatment of women.

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          @xenon said in "Mostly Friendly":

          @mik said in "Mostly Friendly":

          CNN reporter on the Taliban takeover in Afghanistan: “They’re just chanting ‘Death to America,’ but they seem friendly at the same time.”

          Not making any excuses for that chant... but sometimes things get lost in translation a bit. There's a common "rally chant" in India that goes something like this:

          <Cause, cause> Zindabad!
          <the opposite of the cause> <the opposite of the cause> Murdabad!

          Zindabad means "long live", and Murdabad means "down with", or literally "death to".

          But someone can be more emphasizing the Zindabad part (and be happy), or emphasizing the Murdabad part (and be angry). But the chant typically needs a cause and a foil.

          Also - "Death to" doesn't necessarily mean "people should die" in this context. It could mean death to an idea... or down with an idea as well.

          Anyways - that's as much rationalizing I can muster in favor of terrorists for one day.

          Not worried about the terrorists. I was commenting on a female CNN reporter who is saying the Taliban appear friendly in English? Again are you fucking serious that a woman in the US today could get away with that comment on arguably the most brutal regime towards women in existence on the planet.

          To further make my point, I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women. Compare and contrast Taliban to Cuomo regarding the treatment of women.

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          @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

          I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

          On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

          Surely you jest.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • George KG George K

            @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

            I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

            On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

            Surely you jest.

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            @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

            @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

            I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

            On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

            Surely you jest.

            I know right? But in all fairness I did just. look at her other tweets and she expresses massive concern about treatment of women in Afghanistan… so I didn’t do my homework and I likely would not have commented at all

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            • George KG George K

              @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

              I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

              On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

              Surely you jest.

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              @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

              @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

              I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

              On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

              Surely you jest.

              Chris Cuomo Network would be CCN.

              That's two Cs.

              CNN has two Ns.

              Please love yourself.

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                @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

                @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

                I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

                On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

                Surely you jest.

                Chris Cuomo Network would be CCN.

                That's two Cs.

                CNN has two Ns.

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                @aqua-letifer said in "Mostly Friendly":

                @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

                @loki said in "Mostly Friendly":

                I suspect she would go nuts on Cuomo for his harassment of women.

                On CNN (Chris Cuomo Network)?

                Surely you jest.

                Chris Cuomo Network would be CCN.

                That's two Cs.

                CNN has two Ns.

                You are correct.

                My bad.

                I tried (and already had (one cheap) Scotch in me.

                I sit corrected.

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  Chris Cuomo Program would be CCP. Coincidence?

                  Education is extremely important.

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                    Chris Cuomo Program would be CCP. Coincidence?

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                    @horace Da

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Chris Cuomo Program would be CCP. Coincidence?

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                      @horace said in "Mostly Friendly":

                      Chris Cuomo Program would be CCP. Coincidence?

                      That's only two. You need 3 Cs. Chris Cuomo Communist Program.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        George K
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                        Does "Cuomo News Network" work?

                        This is CNN.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          Does "Cuomo News Network" work?

                          This is CNN.

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                          @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

                          Does "Cuomo News Network" work?

                          This is CNN.

                          👍

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

                            Does "Cuomo News Network" work?

                            This is CNN.

                            👍

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                            @aqua-letifer said in "Mostly Friendly":

                            @george-k said in "Mostly Friendly":

                            Does "Cuomo News Network" work?

                            This is CNN.

                            👍

                            Yea, now it has two N-Words…

                            The Brad

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                              Ok, it would appear our work for the day is done here. Well done, everyone. Turn in and we'll have a go at it all again tomorrow.

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