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  • JollyJ Jolly

    @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

    I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

    Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

    Here's what I don't understand...Trump has said repeatedly, "Get vaccinated". Before and after leaving office.

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    @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

    @mik said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

    I have to admit that most folks I see that refuse the vaccine are Trump-siders, and I just cannot understand it. He moved heaven and earth to get this done.

    Most of the traditional Republicans, myself included, could not get it fast enough.

    Here's what I don't understand...Trump has said repeatedly, "Get vaccinated". Before and after leaving office.

    I think I've been pretty clear on my opinions of Trump's fuckfacery, but I gotta give it to him for Warp Speed. Not his messaging—was wrong for how people saw him, and, clearly it didn't work with his base—but yeah, Warp Speed put a dent in the pandemic.

    Please love yourself.

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      @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

      @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

      I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

      Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

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      @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

      @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

      @bachophile said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

      I don’t understand why when Trump brought operation warp speed, vaccines were great. Now that the administration has changed, vaccines imperil personal freedom.

      Are there people who loved vaccines under Trump and now hate them? Or is that a caricature of "what Republicans think"?

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      MTG, some caricature of what Republicans think. Yeah she is not good for the brand.

      Education is extremely important.

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        Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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        • L Loki

          Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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          @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

          Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

          Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

          Please love yourself.

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          • L Loki

            Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

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            @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

            Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

            It would be strange to consider vaccinated people to be self righteous in general.

            Education is extremely important.

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              Are masks macho or not macho?

              Are vaccines macho or not macho?

              If you hesitate answering this, you don’t get it.

              This doesn’t explain all pro-freedom, pro-natural-immunity, but I think it covers a lot of it.

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                Rock Hudson was macho.

                Look how that turned out.

                I was only joking

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                • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                  @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                  Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                  Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

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                  @aqua-letifer said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                  @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                  Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                  Still losing, though, because there aren't enough converts.

                  Like hell we are. It may change, because of the actual swarm of positive COVID results and the endless admits, but we are better than we were when this thing started. There are people leaving the hospital today, that wouldn't have several months ago.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                    Rock Hudson was macho.

                    Look how that turned out.

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                    @doctor-phibes said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                    Rock Hudson was macho.

                    Look how that turned out.

                    My understanding is that we don’t discuss that disease anymore.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                      Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                      It would be strange to consider vaccinated people to be self righteous in general.

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                      @horace said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                      @loki said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                      Say what you want about the righteousness of the vaccinated because at the end of the day all our masking, and the incredible work of the hospital employees is in service of keeping the unvaccinated alive.

                      It would be strange to consider vaccinated people to be self righteous in general.

                      I think the better statement is that they are working at cross purposes.

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        They told me when I walked into work this morning, our floor guy died. Black, 38, non-vaccinated. Full start to full stop, five days.

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                        @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                        They told me when I walked into work this morning, our floor guy died. Black, 38, non-vaccinated. Full start to full stop, five days.

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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Idiot.

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            Idiot.

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                            @jolly said in Unvaccinated America in 5 charts:

                            Idiot.

                            You are too kind.

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                              Boos erupted when Trump told the crowd in his Alabama rally to get the COVID-19 vaccine:

                              Link to video

                              Interviews with a few who will not get vaccinated:

                              Link to video

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                                Boos erupted when Trump told the crowd in his Alabama rally to get the COVID-19 vaccine:

                                Link to video

                                Interviews with a few who will not get vaccinated:

                                Link to video

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                                @axtremus idiots gotta idiot.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  Sadly, Fox has helped the cause as well. While this woman overstates her position, she isn't completely wrong about Fox's misinformation on masks and vaccines.

                                  The other day a the beginning of a segment explaining the horrors of forcing healthcare workers to vaccinate, Tucker explained that 75% of healthcare workers in New York City are not vaccinated. I was surprised at the statistic, and then the segment continued with a rather inarticulate nurse from Texas who resigned rather than being forced to vaccinate. Then just before cutting to commercial, Tucker noted that only 75% of New York City healthcare workers were vaccinated. I thought maybe I made a mistake in my listening - so I rewatched the broadcast. Nope, got it right. The whole segment was based on the 75% of healthcare workers being unvaccinated.

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                                    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/alex-jones-attacks-trump-for-promoting-vaccines-maybe-trumps-actually-a-dumba/

                                    Alex Jones rebuked Trump for encouraging people to get vaccinated, saying Trump may be a dumbass.

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                                      So I suppose the anti vaxxers aren’t Trump’s fault after all, eh?

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        I wonder to what extent the Trumpist subset of the antivaxx crowd will start becoming distrustful of other vaccines. That’s a segment that in years past would have sent their kids through the typical vaccination schedule without a second thought, with the exception of Gardasil perhaps.

                                        But how much will the attitude about covid vaccines spill over?

                                        Only non-witches get due process.

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                                          Dunno. Ask the Kennedys.

                                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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