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  • CopperC Copper

    The USA has been polio free for about 40 years, it took us about 25 years after the vaccine to get there.

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    Doctor Phibes
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    @copper said in 10%:

    The USA has been polio free for about 40 years, it took us about 25 years after the vaccine to get there.

    Well, it only took a few years for the massive decline. After that it was waiting for the few remaining cases to fade away. The vaccine was introduced in 1955...

    ![alt text](4d59dc47-1225-4dfb-91ed-a83bd317f965-image.png image url)

    I was only joking

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      The request was for the 100% plan.

      Mr Trump and Mr Biden have both been kind enough to give us massive declines.

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      • CopperC Copper

        The request was for the 100% plan.

        Mr Trump and Mr Biden have both been kind enough to give us massive declines.

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        @copper said in 10%:

        The request was for the 100% plan.

        Mr Trump and Mr Biden have both been kind enough to give us massive declines.

        Neither managed anything that looks remotely like 1964. I'd be more than happy with that.

        I was only joking

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        • JollyJ Jolly

          But Truth is essential.

          Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

          That's just one example.

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          Aqua Letifer
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          @jolly said in 10%:

          But Truth is essential.

          Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

          That's just one example.

          Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

          Please love yourself.

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            Horace
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            Even taking into account biases against the administration, one can have an opinion about transparency and honesty in the COVID messaging and how it relates to getting more people vaccinated.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @jolly said in 10%:

              But Truth is essential.

              Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

              That's just one example.

              Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

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              @aqua-letifer said in 10%:

              @jolly said in 10%:

              But Truth is essential.

              Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

              That's just one example.

              Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

              Dude, 100% ain't happening. Period.

              And here's the nasty Truth. Even if you got 80% or more, the vaccine is ephemeral. Sisyphus is gonna be pushing this boulder up the hill a long time. Now, if you want to get your panties in a twist about who is, or isn't in the White House, be my guest. But that doesn't get the hay baled.

              The Administration, any administration needs a clear, concise, truthful message. After that, you pretty much get what you get for awhile, then as people trust you and see the effectiveness of the policy you get more.

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • JollyJ Jolly

                @aqua-letifer said in 10%:

                @jolly said in 10%:

                But Truth is essential.

                Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

                That's just one example.

                Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

                Dude, 100% ain't happening. Period.

                And here's the nasty Truth. Even if you got 80% or more, the vaccine is ephemeral. Sisyphus is gonna be pushing this boulder up the hill a long time. Now, if you want to get your panties in a twist about who is, or isn't in the White House, be my guest. But that doesn't get the hay baled.

                The Administration, any administration needs a clear, concise, truthful message. After that, you pretty much get what you get for awhile, then as people trust you and see the effectiveness of the policy you get more.

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                #47

                @jolly said in 10%:

                @aqua-letifer said in 10%:

                @jolly said in 10%:

                But Truth is essential.

                Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

                That's just one example.

                Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

                Dude, 100% ain't happening. Period.

                And here's the nasty Truth. Even if you got 80% or more, the vaccine is ephemeral. Sisyphus is gonna be pushing this boulder up the hill a long time. Now, if you want to get your panties in a twist about who is, or isn't in the White House, be my guest. But that doesn't get the hay baled.

                The Administration, any administration needs a clear, concise, truthful message. After that, you pretty much get what you get for awhile, then as people trust you and see the effectiveness of the policy you get more.

                Agree with everything you said but either the vaccines help or not in hospitals being overwhelmed and deaths. While we work on trust issues do we find a way to inflect the hospitalization and death numbers?

                If you were President and you had a state of the union tonight what would you say?

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                • L Loki

                  @jolly said in 10%:

                  @aqua-letifer said in 10%:

                  @jolly said in 10%:

                  But Truth is essential.

                  Look at the Delta variant and children. As people recognize that children can get the disease, they start to rethink vaccination ages and they rethink their own status. If TPTB hadn't blown their truth wad on semi-speculation, people would believe them when they said that as many as 20% of Delta infections in some places affected people less than 18 years-old.

                  That's just one example.

                  Yes, everyone—especially here—was completely willing to give Joe Biden and his administration the benefit of the doubt, but then they went and lied their asses completely off about the Delta numbers and that's what caused everyone to turn their backs on them. That checks out.

                  Dude, 100% ain't happening. Period.

                  And here's the nasty Truth. Even if you got 80% or more, the vaccine is ephemeral. Sisyphus is gonna be pushing this boulder up the hill a long time. Now, if you want to get your panties in a twist about who is, or isn't in the White House, be my guest. But that doesn't get the hay baled.

                  The Administration, any administration needs a clear, concise, truthful message. After that, you pretty much get what you get for awhile, then as people trust you and see the effectiveness of the policy you get more.

                  Agree with everything you said but either the vaccines help or not in hospitals being overwhelmed and deaths. While we work on trust issues do we find a way to inflect the hospitalization and death numbers?

                  If you were President and you had a state of the union tonight what would you say?

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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by Horace
                  #48

                  @loki said in 10%:

                  If you were President and you had a state of the union tonight what would you say?

                  As messages go, I would consider shame and blame casting at the vaccine hesitant to be counter-productive. I wouldn't want to pile onto the notion that they are de facto mass murderers and destroyers of civilization. I would keep the numbers to what is true and demonstrable, and which, if true, should be sufficient to convince anybody that getting vaccinated is good for themselves and everybody else. I would attempt to establish a basic human understanding of vaccine hesitancy. Maybe I would request an intelligence briefing about the most influential anti-vax ideas out there, and respectfully refute them.

                  Education is extremely important.

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