DeSantis is such a douchebag
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@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Oh, FFS, did anybody else actually read that bullshit?
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Oh, FFS, did anybody else actually read that bullshit?
Yes, Florida’s been a hotspot these past two months and had one of the worst spreads we’ve seen. How does that justify the Post trying to manipulate the facts to create a narrative? 13 staffers doesn’t equate 13 teachers and in this case, we don’t even know that 13 died of COVID, the article admits that. Beyond that with the timing, most or all caught the disease before the school year began. Even the one teacher example they used likely caught it from his sister. (And wasn’t it extra special how the Post mentioned his attention to children of color and his work in a program for kids founded by a Dem rep?)
They also pointed back to the Texas teachers, both of whom died before kids were back in school.
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers? Or is it justified just because Florida got hit with a surge? The same surge that experts are predicting for elsewhere in the US?
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Oh, FFS, did anybody else actually read that bullshit?
Yes, Florida’s been a hotspot these past two months and had one of the worst spreads we’ve seen. How does that justify the Post trying to manipulate the facts to create a narrative? 13 staffers doesn’t equate 13 teachers and in this case, we don’t even know that 13 died of COVID, the article admits that. Beyond that with the timing, most or all caught the disease before the school year began. Even the one teacher example they used likely caught it from his sister. (And wasn’t it extra special how the Post mentioned his attention to children of color and his work in a program for kids founded by a Dem rep?)
They also pointed back to the Texas teachers, both of whom died before kids were back in school.
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers? Or is it justified just because Florida got hit with a surge? The same surge that experts are predicting for elsewhere in the US?
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers?
No, I just don't care. I don't care in any way whatsoever how hogwash the story is. I care that Florida's in bad shape, on some level precisely because DeSantis has fucked up on many fronts.
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@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers?
No, I just don't care. I don't care in any way whatsoever how hogwash the story is. I care that Florida's in bad shape, on some level precisely because DeSantis has fucked up on many fronts.
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers?
No, I just don't care. I don't care in any way whatsoever how hogwash the story is. I care that Florida's in bad shape, on some level precisely because DeSantis has fucked up on many fronts.
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Are you denying that this was a gross misrepresentation and attempt to manipulate the readers?
No, I just don't care. I don't care in any way whatsoever how hogwash the story is. I care that Florida's in bad shape, on some level precisely because DeSantis has fucked up on many fronts.
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
By actively preventing public and private entities from creating their own safety procedures. And also by literally saying on record, many times, that getting vaccinated doesn't matter to anyone and it's a personal choice that has no impact on public health.
Please love yourself.
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@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
By actively preventing public and private entities from creating their own safety procedures. And also by literally saying on record, many times, that getting vaccinated doesn't matter to anyone and it's a personal choice that has no impact on public health.
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
By actively preventing public and private entities from creating their own safety procedures. And also by literally saying on record, many times, that getting vaccinated doesn't matter to anyone and it's a personal choice that has no impact on public health.
I’d like cites on that last half.
And yet, despite his obvious attempts to destroy his state, his state doesn’t crack the top 15 in terms of deaths per population even though they have one of the oldest and most at risk populations in the country and one of the highest caseloads.
He has also been praised by his political opponents in Florida for his handling of the crisis and the job that he’s done on the ground. Maybe there’s more to this story?
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@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
? Did Israel fuck up? Did the UK? Florida, Texas, and Louisiana were hit with Delta before anybody knew the vaccinations were wearing off or that Pfizer was less effective than hoped…How is that DeSantis’ fault?
By actively preventing public and private entities from creating their own safety procedures. And also by literally saying on record, many times, that getting vaccinated doesn't matter to anyone and it's a personal choice that has no impact on public health.
I’d like cites on that last half.
And yet, despite his obvious attempts to destroy his state, his state doesn’t crack the top 15 in terms of deaths per population even though they have one of the oldest and most at risk populations in the country and one of the highest caseloads.
He has also been praised by his political opponents in Florida for his handling of the crisis and the job that he’s done on the ground. Maybe there’s more to this story?
@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Maybe there’s more to this story?
Go find it, and the cites. Knock yourself out. A 10-second Google search is plenty.
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Google wouldn't set up negative algorithms for DeSantis, would they?
Of course not...
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Google wouldn't set up negative algorithms for DeSantis, would they?
Of course not...
So now we're saying, without any proof, that Google jerry-rigged its own search results to be biased against DeSantis by only citing articles that quote him directly.
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I think Google will do anything possible to kill Republican Presidential candidates in the nest.
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I think Google will do anything possible to kill Republican Presidential candidates in the nest.
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jerry-rigged is an inferior sort of word to be avoided
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
I think Google will do anything possible to kill Republican Presidential candidates in the nest.
You can also try Microsoft Bing or Duck Duck Go or Yahoo! Search or AOL Search.
@axtremus said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
I think Google will do anything possible to kill Republican Presidential candidates in the nest.
You can also try Microsoft Bing or Duck Duck Go or Yahoo! Search or AOL Search.
Then post away.
I'm not your Google Mommy.
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Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
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Damn, another thread to respond to and not enough time…
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Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
One foundation of this country is that you have the ability to persuade, not to order, in most cases.
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Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
Yes, Jolly, calling DeSantis a douchebag is fascist.
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@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
Yes, Jolly, calling DeSantis a douchebag is fascist.
@aqua-letifer said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
@jolly said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
Now, let us get back to the subject at hand...Because Florida is going through a tough spot, suddenly DeSantis is a douchebag.
Because DeSantis has urged people to get vaccinated, but still says that vaccination is a personal decision, he's a douchebag.
I guess being a libertarian is okay, until you rub off the veneer on a truly libertarian idea, which is the supreme responsibility for one's self. Then, if it involves a disease, it's fine to force compliance to the state.
Isn't that a bit fascist?
Yes, Jolly, calling DeSantis a douchebag is fascist.
No, your reasons for calling DeSantis a douchebag are fascist.
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I’ve briefly read what he said, and here’s where I think things are off the rails. I think he is speaking of Public Health as a Government Entity. The CDC can’t force you to get vaccinated, the NIH can’t force you to get vaccinated, the local, state, and federal governments can’t force you to get vaccinated. Only you can make that decision. And he’s right.
The Brad
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@lufins-dad said in DeSantis is such a douchebag:
The CDC can’t force you to get vaccinated, the NIH can’t force you to get vaccinated, the local, state, and federal governments can’t force you to get vaccinated. Only you can make that decision. And he’s right.
True, dat.
(Devil's advocate here)
By the same token, NIH, etc., can't force you to get vaccinated against measels, diptheria, chickenpox, etc.
However, your employer can, and that's a totally different discussion. So your choice is really vaccination or your job.
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