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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on last edited by
    #54

    Mental issues really shouldn't be that big a deal - just look at Piers Morgan, and how he manages to maintain a successful media presence despite suffering from a crippling personality disorder.

    I was only joking

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    • Aqua LetiferA Offline
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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on last edited by
      #55

      I love how we've politicized a gymnast deciding not to compete at the Olympics. What the actual fuck.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        I love how we've politicized a gymnast deciding not to compete at the Olympics. What the actual fuck.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on last edited by
        #56

        @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. โ€“ Mike Ditka

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        • Catseye3C Catseye3

          @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          Aqua Letifer
          wrote on last edited by
          #57

          @catseye3 said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

          @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

          I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

          If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

          If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

          I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @catseye3 said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

            @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

            I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

            If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

            If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

            I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

            Catseye3C Offline
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            Catseye3
            wrote on last edited by
            #58

            @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

            I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

            Ah so.

            I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves.

            Oh, m'dear, I so SO hear you.

            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. โ€“ Mike Ditka

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            • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
              wrote on last edited by
              #59

              We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                Aqua Letifer
                wrote on last edited by
                #60

                @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                Please love yourself.

                JollyJ 1 Reply Last reply
                • Catseye3C Offline
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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #61

                  Average American conversationist:

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                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. โ€“ Mike Ditka

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    @catseye3 said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

                    I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

                    If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

                    If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

                    I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

                    MikM Offline
                    MikM Offline
                    Mik
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #62

                    @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    @catseye3 said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                    @aqua-letifer Welcome to TNCR, noobie! Just so you know, somebody else has been using your nick all this time. ๐Ÿ˜„

                    I didn't mean TNCR, I meant Americans.

                    If you're liberal, you have to view this as a courageous act from a true hero.

                    If you're conservative, you have to view this as an act from a quitter who couldn't hack it.

                    I'm tired of everything becoming a proxy discussion about politics with no one thinking for themselves. I don't want to discuss issues with someone's interpretation of what their echo chamber has concluded, I want to talk to an actual person.

                    Amen, brother Aqua.

                    โ€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.โ€ ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • L Offline
                      L Offline
                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #63

                      A new hero has emerged. Donโ€™t want to be a spoiler but what a great success story. Churchillian even.

                      You can assemble the facts and write your own narrative but the final outcome is part of the American grit, resilience and overcoming the greatest odds story.

                      OptimisticO 1 Reply Last reply
                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                        @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                        Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                        Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                        JollyJ Offline
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                        Jolly
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #64

                        @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                        We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                        Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                        Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                        Quit being so tribal. As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                        โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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                        • JollyJ Jolly

                          @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                          Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                          Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                          Quit being so tribal. As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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                          Aqua Letifer
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #65

                          @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                          We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                          Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                          Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                          Quit being so tribal.

                          Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                          As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                          In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                          Please love yourself.

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                          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                            @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                            Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                            Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                            Quit being so tribal.

                            Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                            As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                            In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                            HoraceH Offline
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                            Horace
                            wrote on last edited by Horace
                            #66

                            @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                            We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                            Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                            Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                            Quit being so tribal.

                            Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                            As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                            In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                            I think she was confident that she'd be embraced by her culture even after doing what she did. I think that confidence played a role in her decision. I think if she was Japanese or Chinese or Russian etc, she wouldn't have had that confidence, because of the differences in culture. To the extent that politics and culture overlap, there's an easy way to get from reactions to this event, to politics. You don't have to squint too hard.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                            • HoraceH Horace

                              @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                              Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                              Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                              Quit being so tribal.

                              Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                              As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                              In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                              I think she was confident that she'd be embraced by her culture even after doing what she did. I think that confidence played a role in her decision. I think if she was Japanese or Chinese or Russian etc, she wouldn't have had that confidence, because of the differences in culture. To the extent that politics and culture overlap, there's an easy way to get from reactions to this event, to politics. You don't have to squint too hard.

                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua LetiferA Offline
                              Aqua Letifer
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #67

                              @horace said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                              I think she was confident that she'd be embraced by her culture even after doing what she did. I think that confidence played a role in her decision. I think if she was Japanese or Chinese or Russian etc, she wouldn't have had that confidence, because of the differences in culture.

                              Yeah, I'd agree with that.

                              Please love yourself.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #68

                                All interesting perspectives.

                                There is a backstory of her dropping out of a major event in 2013, and it has many similar characteristics. Not sure if it is relevant. Also there was much discussion before the incident of assigning less points to her moves because of fear of permanent disability to others that tried it. Finally I am thinking of a pilot who loses orientation in a barrel roll, I think they need to be checked out before they go right back up in the air.

                                Of course in competition our story is about grit and determination, not abandoning your team or country. I am super competitive so I fully understand that.

                                In sum I just donโ€™t know.

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                                  Catseye3
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #69

                                  She is beyond world class as an athlete. Her life, what she has experienced, the challenges she has met and surpassed, put her beyond facile pigeon-holing.

                                  We can't know, unless we're intimately familiar with her, what values she has acquired and retained and what lessons she has learned and how flawed or how perfected her judgment is. How her very body and its movements affect her every decision.

                                  She ain't like us.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. โ€“ Mike Ditka

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                                  • L Loki

                                    A new hero has emerged. Donโ€™t want to be a spoiler but what a great success story. Churchillian even.

                                    You can assemble the facts and write your own narrative but the final outcome is part of the American grit, resilience and overcoming the greatest odds story.

                                    OptimisticO Offline
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                                    Optimistic
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #70

                                    @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                    A new hero has emerged. Donโ€™t want to be a spoiler but what a great success story. Churchillian even.

                                    You can assemble the facts and write your own narrative but the final outcome is part of the American grit, resilience and overcoming the greatest odds story.

                                    Aaack, I'm leaving this thread and all news and social media until I get to watch the all-around competition rebroadcast tonight!

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                                    • L Loki

                                      All interesting perspectives.

                                      There is a backstory of her dropping out of a major event in 2013, and it has many similar characteristics. Not sure if it is relevant. Also there was much discussion before the incident of assigning less points to her moves because of fear of permanent disability to others that tried it. Finally I am thinking of a pilot who loses orientation in a barrel roll, I think they need to be checked out before they go right back up in the air.

                                      Of course in competition our story is about grit and determination, not abandoning your team or country. I am super competitive so I fully understand that.

                                      In sum I just donโ€™t know.

                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor PhibesD Offline
                                      Doctor Phibes
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #71

                                      @loki said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                      In sum I just donโ€™t know.

                                      That's my point. None of us do.

                                      I'm happy to give her the benefit of the doubt. It's not like she's harming me in any way.

                                      I don't suppose anybody really cares that much if they're honest, but I could be wrong - if anybody here feels passionately about women's gymnastics, please let go of what you're currently holding and raise your right hand.

                                      I was only joking

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                                        Copper
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #72

                                        Some people deal with the pressure of the Olympics, some don't

                                        We seem to take extra pleasure watching those who don't, maybe because they are more rare.

                                        ![alt text](340f9e21-2de6-4a41-975f-e7a4af74400b-image.png image url)

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                                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                          @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                                          Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                                          Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                                          Quit being so tribal.

                                          Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                                          In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                                          JollyJ Offline
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                                          Jolly
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #73

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @jolly said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @aqua-letifer said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          @doctor-phibes said in Biles bails at the Olympics:

                                          We've also moved on from being Monday morning quarterbacks to Monday morning mental health professionals.

                                          Liberals are the Monday morning mental health professionals in this instance.

                                          Conservatives are still doing the quarterbacking.

                                          Quit being so tribal.

                                          Yeah it's me. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                          As I referenced earlier, it's fine for her to withdraw, the question is why wasn't it done earlier?

                                          In other words, "she should have known her limits before she reached them." Doesn't sound reasonable to me to assume anyone can do that with any accuracy.

                                          Just a few weeks ago, she was at an event with a small goat emblem on her uniform. GOAT. Greatest Of All Time. She's complained in interviews (good luck finding them, they're being scrubbed) that she was being judged differently, because she was so good.

                                          God Bless her, she is very good, but the very best rise to the occasion.

                                          โ€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!โ€

                                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terroristsโ€™ "due process". โ€” Buck Sexton

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