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  • Catseye3C Offline
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    Catseye3
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    #6

    Another great example. If there had been a soupcon of honor in the press about Donald Trump, he would never have made it off the elevator.

    Maybe we're aiming our searchlight at the wrong party. Instead of kvetching at each other's tribe all the livelong damn day, as fun as that is, we should be holding the MSM's feet to the fire. Remind them that the screechers on the corner are NOT THEIR ONLY AUDIENCE.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      People should be paying attention to their own congresscritters much moreso than other folks'. I suspect many people know more about AOC than their representatives.

      β€œI am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        Why oh why is it always the nimrods in our Congressional leadership who get the press?

        There are 100 Senators and 435 Congressmen in the US Congress. The majority of these we never hear from, or about. They can't all be idiots. There are lawyers, college graduates, people who had some success in their fields before they entered politics. People who are liked for a reason. People who dress nice. Why do they not get some share of attention, at least some of the time?

        I understand that for the media folk, the lower the denominator, the higher the ratings. Humans need to bitch. I get that. But I can't believe that quote-unquote journalists, or those who pass for journalists, are so universally wedded to that as an operating principle that they can never never never deviate from it. Why is that?

        That's the kind of question we should be asking -- not endlessly picking over examples of the lame and mediocre as some sort of proof of the way things are. What we are so tirelessly subjected to is not the way things are. If that were the case, we'd have collapsed eons ago.

        I'd write more, but my dinger went off and my rice needs to come off the heat.

        Aqua LetiferA Offline
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        #8

        @catseye3 said in Question.:

        Why oh why is it always the nimrods in our Congressional leadership who get the press?

        Because "Rep. Smith Spends Reasonable Day at the Office" is the worst headline ever. "Rep. Smith Says Crazy Shit You Wouldn't Believe" is sure to bring in readers.

        But I can't believe that quote-unquote journalists, or those who pass for journalists, are so universally wedded to that as an operating principle that they can never never never deviate from it. Why is that?

        Keeping the lights on at a legacy publishing building located downtown is very expensive. Journalists already make basically shit in terms of a salary, and advert money has completely dried up. Revenue has never been lower, and competition has never been higher. They're struggling. This is no time to be educating the public; that's a luxury they literally can no longer afford.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @catseye3 said in Question.:

          Why oh why is it always the nimrods in our Congressional leadership who get the press?

          Because "Rep. Smith Spends Reasonable Day at the Office" is the worst headline ever. "Rep. Smith Says Crazy Shit You Wouldn't Believe" is sure to bring in readers.

          But I can't believe that quote-unquote journalists, or those who pass for journalists, are so universally wedded to that as an operating principle that they can never never never deviate from it. Why is that?

          Keeping the lights on at a legacy publishing building located downtown is very expensive. Journalists already make basically shit in terms of a salary, and advert money has completely dried up. Revenue has never been lower, and competition has never been higher. They're struggling. This is no time to be educating the public; that's a luxury they literally can no longer afford.

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
          wrote on last edited by
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          @aqua-letifer So wallow in the muck to survive?

          I get what you're saying. It is becoming frighteningly clear that the MSM's wallowing is itself the thing the country can't afford.

          It's a bad circle. Read the shit, keep the press offices open and encouraged to write more shit, deepen the divide, bring ruin closer and closer -- because there is no way it will not go there.

          But it doesn't make perfect sense. It's impossible to believe that there aren't journalists -- from like the old days -- who see this writing on the wall and who make an effort to write from a more truthful perspective. And I'm not talking about Congressman X Spends Reasonable Day at the Office. I'm talking about more depth, more like What's Really Going On.

          But if that talent isn't there, then it isn't there. Maybe all we can do is refuse to read the shit.

          Fat chance, eh?

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @aqua-letifer So wallow in the muck to survive?

            I get what you're saying. It is becoming frighteningly clear that the MSM's wallowing is itself the thing the country can't afford.

            It's a bad circle. Read the shit, keep the press offices open and encouraged to write more shit, deepen the divide, bring ruin closer and closer -- because there is no way it will not go there.

            But it doesn't make perfect sense. It's impossible to believe that there aren't journalists -- from like the old days -- who see this writing on the wall and who make an effort to write from a more truthful perspective. And I'm not talking about Congressman X Spends Reasonable Day at the Office. I'm talking about more depth, more like What's Really Going On.

            But if that talent isn't there, then it isn't there. Maybe all we can do is refuse to read the shit.

            Fat chance, eh?

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            @catseye3 said in Question.:

            But it doesn't make perfect sense. It's impossible to believe that there aren't journalists -- from like the old days -- who see this writing on the wall and who make an effort to write from a more truthful perspective. And I'm not talking about Congressman X Spends Reasonable Day at the Office. I'm talking about more depth, more like What's Really Going On.

            I completely agree with you, but standing on principle is, unfortunately, worthless. Saying "people are stupid for caring more about the Kardashians" or "journalists should write more objective news" won't get you anywhere. The journalists aren't even the ones making these decisions, nor are their editors.

            Attention is won through emotions, not good information. The frontal lobe can't compete with the older limbic system in this arena. If you really want things to change, then you've got to find a way to create a stronger emotional reaction to your idea of what a news story should be than BuzzFeed articles about pandas and the outrage of the day, Instagram remixes, viral TikTok videos, Facebook arguments, Etsy 50% deals, etc., etc.

            Please love yourself.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              Another great example. If there had been a soupcon of honor in the press about Donald Trump, he would never have made it off the elevator.

              Maybe we're aiming our searchlight at the wrong party. Instead of kvetching at each other's tribe all the livelong damn day, as fun as that is, we should be holding the MSM's feet to the fire. Remind them that the screechers on the corner are NOT THEIR ONLY AUDIENCE.

              LarryL Offline
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              Larry
              wrote on last edited by Larry
              #11

              @catseye3 said in Question.:

              Another great example. If there had been a soupcon of honor in the press about Donald Trump, he would never have made it off the elevator.

              Maybe we're aiming our searchlight at the wrong party. Instead of kvetching at each other's tribe all the livelong damn day, as fun as that is, we should be holding the MSM's feet to the fire. Remind them that the screechers on the corner are NOT THEIR ONLY AUDIENCE.

              We can't hold the media's feet to the fire because the number of idiots in this country has grown too large. These idiots aren't capable of telling the difference between the truth and a lie, and believe what they hear on the media all while claiming they dont. You can easily identify these idiots, because theyll say things like "if there had been a soupcan of honor in the press donald Trump would have never made it off the elevator". They will make stupid comments like that with a straight face, firmly convinced of their own ignorance, and apparently quite happy that way.

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                Jolly
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                MTG. Extremely pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, supports law enforcement and a strong border. Pro-small business, introduced a bill to fire Fauci and another to impeach the Resident.

                What's not to like?πŸ˜„

                β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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                • LarryL Offline
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                  Larry
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                  @jolly said in Question.:

                  MTG. Extremely pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, supports law enforcement and a strong border. Pro-small business, introduced a bill to fire Fauci and another to impeach the Resident.

                  What's not to like?πŸ˜„

                  At least she loves the country. Thats more than you can say about most democrats.

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    MTG. Extremely pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, supports law enforcement and a strong border. Pro-small business, introduced a bill to fire Fauci and another to impeach the Resident.

                    What's not to like?πŸ˜„

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                    Horace
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                    @jolly said in Question.:

                    MTG. Extremely pro-Second Amendment, pro-life, supports law enforcement and a strong border. Pro-small business, introduced a bill to fire Fauci and another to impeach the Resident.

                    What's not to like?πŸ˜„

                    That all sounds great to me. Too bad she self-owns with some nuttery.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • JollyJ Offline
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                      Jolly
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                      Well, everybody can't be completely sane.πŸ˜„

                      β€œCry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". β€” Buck Sexton

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