I smell a scam
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I have an old iPad I'm selling on FB marketplace. Some guy offered me almost my asking price. It's listed as local pickup only - I don't want to ship.
Here's the conversation:
So, he's going to pay me TWICE what I asked for to "cover the shipping" and then he'll pay me "when I mail it out."
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But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling. -
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
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@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
So many people still think a cashiers check is good especially when they see it in their bank account. Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.
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@klaus said in I smell a scam:
@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
So many people still think a cashiers check is good especially when they see it in their bank account. Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.
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@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
The thing about scams is most of the time they're preying on the gullible or the uninformed. The elderly fall for all kinds of stuff, as I'm sure some of us can attest. Not that George is elderly, of course.
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@klaus said in I smell a scam:
@larry said in I smell a scam:
@klaus said in I smell a scam:
But if it is a scam, how does the scam work? Where is the point where the guy would make money?
"You'reasking 100 dollars. I'll pay you 500 dollars, but I need for you to ship it to my cousin. I will send you a cashier's check for 2,000. You deposit it in your bank and send 1500 dollars on a gift card along with the item when you ship it to my cousin."
2 or 3 weeks later:
bank "sir, that 2,000 dollar money order you deposited is fraudulent. We have deducted it from your account."
Your 1500 is gone. Your 2,000 is gone. Your item is gone. The address you shipped to has never heard of the person you shipped to. The guy who "bought" it is gone. He made 1500 dollars, you lost 3500 dollars plus the item you were selling.But who in hell would accept a check as payment? No sane seller would accept any form of payment that can be revoked. I for one accept cash and wire transfer only. No PayPal, and certainly no check.
The thing about scams is most of the time they're preying on the gullible or the uninformed. The elderly fall for all kinds of stuff, as I'm sure some of us can attest. Not that George is elderly, of course.
@doctor-phibes said in I smell a scam:
Not that George is elderly, of course.
TNCR keeps George young.
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@loki said in I smell a scam:
Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.
They're not anymore???
@catseye3 said in I smell a scam:
@loki said in I smell a scam:
Cashiers check used to be the old good as gold standard.
They're not anymore???
No. They are easily faked.
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There's a ton of videos on Youtube of people using virtual machines and bogus banking sites to hack into and generally screw with scammers. They're quite entertaining.
