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99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people

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    Loki
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    #90

    The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

    https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

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    • L Loki

      The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

      https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

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      Horace
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      #91

      @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

      The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

      https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

      Does this mean vaccinated conservatives are now proven to be free thinking non tribalists?

      Also, we tend to be good looking.

      Education is extremely important.

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      • HoraceH Horace

        @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

        The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

        https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

        Does this mean vaccinated conservatives are now proven to be free thinking non tribalists?

        Also, we tend to be good looking.

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        Loki
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        #92

        @horace said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

        @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

        The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

        https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

        Does this mean vaccinated conservatives are now proven to be free thinking non tribalists?

        Also, we tend to be good looking.

        Haha.

        A good catch actually.

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        • L Loki

          The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

          https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

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          @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

          The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

          https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

          I think we knew that before the vaccines existed.

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          • HoraceH Horace

            @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

            The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

            https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

            Does this mean vaccinated conservatives are now proven to be free thinking non tribalists?

            Also, we tend to be good looking.

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            Aqua Letifer
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            #94

            @horace said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

            @loki said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

            The data is in. Choosing to not vaccinate is mostly political.

            https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/561756-risks-rise-as-vaccination-gap-with-trump-counties-grows-wider

            Does this mean vaccinated conservatives are now proven to be free thinking non tribalists?

            Also, we tend to be good looking.

            Not proven but chances are much higher.

            Please love yourself.

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              Loki
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              Hold on to your guns and bibles! The Government is coming for them while posing as door to door vaccines.

              https://nypost.com/2021/07/10/rep-madison-cawthorn-warns-biden-will-seize-guns-and-bibles/

              I finally understand the liberty and freedom thing.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @aqua-letifer said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                @horace said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                It would be nice if the indignant folk gave an impression that they differentiated between purveyors of anti-vax rhetoric, and those who speak up about the value of the freedom to make the choice individually.

                It would be nice if the folks who only want to talk about freedom actually admit that, all things being equal and exceptions aside, it's much dumber to not get vaccinated.

                It's on the dumb/ignorant/selfish side, as decisions go. But it doesn't move my outrage meter much.

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                @horace said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                @aqua-letifer said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                @horace said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                It would be nice if the indignant folk gave an impression that they differentiated between purveyors of anti-vax rhetoric, and those who speak up about the value of the freedom to make the choice individually.

                It would be nice if the folks who only want to talk about freedom actually admit that, all things being equal and exceptions aside, it's much dumber to not get vaccinated.

                It's on the dumb/ignorant/selfish side, as decisions go. But it doesn't move my outrage meter much.

                If one is to get outraged about this alone, one has not been paying attention. We have had any number of years of stupid, ignorant shit going on.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  @axtremus said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                  https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/07/04/republicans-vaccines/

                  GOP governors implored their residents on Sunday to get vaccinated against the coronavirus, as polling shows that vaccine hesitancy has been driven by Republicans and as the virus’s new, more contagious delta variant has caused recent upticks in covid-19 cases in areas with low vaccination rates.
                  ...

                  While I realize that the point youre trying to make is that Republicans are not getting vaccinated because republicans are stupid, you couldn't be further from the truth. You'll find more resistance to the vaccine am9ng republicans because republicans do not trust today's government. And they don't trust today's government because today's democrats pose a threat to the nation, and their rank and file - people like you - care more about your ideology than you care about the nation.

                  I've been vaccinated. I got vaccinated the instant it was available. But at the same time, I watched as democrat "leaders" USED this pandemic as an excuse to take control of our lives, limit our freedoms, etc. and if at any time I see the government try to tell me I have to prove I've been vaccinated in order to freely go about my life, I'll be at the front of the line that forms to kick their stupid asses.

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                    Loki
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                    Mercy Hospital in Springfield, Missouri, opened its sixth Covid-19 unit to help care for patients over the weekend, according to spokesperson Sonya Kullman.

                    On Sunday, the Missouri hospital reported 137 patients with Covid-19.

                    “For context, the high in the last surge was 113 on Dec. 28, 2020,” Kullman said in an email to CNN.

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                      It is what it is.

                      I don't think there are enough folks out there who have not had the disease or are not vaccinated, that they would swamp the system.

                      I also think as time goes on, you'll see a higher vaccination rate, as people come to grips with the vaccine side-effects. Which is also okay and very similar to how people approach the flu vaccine.

                      Which is also okay, since I think in the next 18-24 months we're going to have more variants than you can shake a stick at, and the initial vaccine may or may not be effective.

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        It is what it is.

                        I don't think there are enough folks out there who have not had the disease or are not vaccinated, that they would swamp the system.

                        I also think as time goes on, you'll see a higher vaccination rate, as people come to grips with the vaccine side-effects. Which is also okay and very similar to how people approach the flu vaccine.

                        Which is also okay, since I think in the next 18-24 months we're going to have more variants than you can shake a stick at, and the initial vaccine may or may not be effective.

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                        Loki
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                        @jolly said in 99.2% of recent Covid deaths are unvaccinated people:

                        It is what it is.

                        I don't think there are enough folks out there who have not had the disease or are not vaccinated, that they would swamp the system.

                        I also think as time goes on, you'll see a higher vaccination rate, as people come to grips with the vaccine side-effects. Which is also okay and very similar to how people approach the flu vaccine.

                        Which is also okay, since I think in the next 18-24 months we're going to have more variants than you can shake a stick at, and the initial vaccine may or may not be effective.

                        I’ve given quite a bit of thought to freedom and liberty and in some respects the public health and financial crisis has passed so maybe the imperative is not there to force the issue and give people the opportunity to make an “informed decision”. I still think from a public health point of view it’s important we continue to be vigilant such that the only person accountable for A Covid hospitalization or death is the individual choosing not to take the vaccine.

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