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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/02/new-emails-reveal-hunter-biden-using-access-to-his-father-for-mexican-deals/

    We have previously discussed the concerted and often embarrassing blackout in the media on stories involving Hunter Biden’s influence peddling during his father’s tenure as Vice President. That includes the burying of the laptop story and the growing contradictions over his father’s denial of any knowledge or involvement in his shady business dealings. Even recent reports that Hunter may have paid prostitutes with his father’s account were blacked out by mainstream media which exhaustively pursued any story related to the Trump children and their dealings and life styles.

    At least Trump paid for his own hookers.

    Now, however, there is a major allegation that Hunter used access to his father to seal previously unknown deals with Mexican businessmen, including Carlos Slim. A picture shows Hunter with the businessmen in the Vice President residence with his father.

    As in the past, Americans interested in such stories have had to rely on the foreign press or a couple domestic sites for such information.

    The new emails include references to the use of Air Force II by Hunter Biden to pursue the deals — a similar pattern revealed with regard to the China dealings. The emails detail a number of visits to Mexico, including a February 2016 flight on Air Force II with his father. On the plane was his business partner Jeff Cooper, who ran Illinois-based SimmonsCooper. That is one of the largest asbestos litigation firms in the country and Hunter was given 3 percent of Cooper’s venture capital firm Eudora Global, according to emails. President Biden’s brother (who featured in past controversial deals) was also reportedly involved in some of these efforts.

    These dealings continued into 2018 as Hunter pushed for deals with Slim. One text message from July 24, 2018 reads “Spoke to my dad about ‘Slim ask” and Cooper responds “Oh that sounds SO F’ING GOOD.”

    The "big guy..."

    Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

    Whoopsie

    It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort. That is very serious. If these emails are false, this is a major story. If they are true, this is a major scandal. Presumably, however, this story will result in another run to the nearest ice cream shop for breathless coverage on the current frozen delights of the President.

    How long before this becomes a big story?

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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    • George KG George K

      https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/02/new-emails-reveal-hunter-biden-using-access-to-his-father-for-mexican-deals/

      We have previously discussed the concerted and often embarrassing blackout in the media on stories involving Hunter Biden’s influence peddling during his father’s tenure as Vice President. That includes the burying of the laptop story and the growing contradictions over his father’s denial of any knowledge or involvement in his shady business dealings. Even recent reports that Hunter may have paid prostitutes with his father’s account were blacked out by mainstream media which exhaustively pursued any story related to the Trump children and their dealings and life styles.

      At least Trump paid for his own hookers.

      Now, however, there is a major allegation that Hunter used access to his father to seal previously unknown deals with Mexican businessmen, including Carlos Slim. A picture shows Hunter with the businessmen in the Vice President residence with his father.

      As in the past, Americans interested in such stories have had to rely on the foreign press or a couple domestic sites for such information.

      The new emails include references to the use of Air Force II by Hunter Biden to pursue the deals — a similar pattern revealed with regard to the China dealings. The emails detail a number of visits to Mexico, including a February 2016 flight on Air Force II with his father. On the plane was his business partner Jeff Cooper, who ran Illinois-based SimmonsCooper. That is one of the largest asbestos litigation firms in the country and Hunter was given 3 percent of Cooper’s venture capital firm Eudora Global, according to emails. President Biden’s brother (who featured in past controversial deals) was also reportedly involved in some of these efforts.

      These dealings continued into 2018 as Hunter pushed for deals with Slim. One text message from July 24, 2018 reads “Spoke to my dad about ‘Slim ask” and Cooper responds “Oh that sounds SO F’ING GOOD.”

      The "big guy..."

      Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

      Whoopsie

      It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort. That is very serious. If these emails are false, this is a major story. If they are true, this is a major scandal. Presumably, however, this story will result in another run to the nearest ice cream shop for breathless coverage on the current frozen delights of the President.

      How long before this becomes a big story?

      Catseye3C Offline
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      Catseye3
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      #2

      @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

      Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

      It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort.

      Ooo, somebody arranged for somebody to meet the president! Hang 'im!

      'It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort'. Sounds like Deflategate, where Tom Brady was punished for being 'generally aware' of the football tampering. We could call this DateGate.

      We should bar Biden from the White House for four games weeks.

      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

      George KG 1 Reply Last reply
      • Catseye3C Catseye3

        @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

        Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

        It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort.

        Ooo, somebody arranged for somebody to meet the president! Hang 'im!

        'It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort'. Sounds like Deflategate, where Tom Brady was punished for being 'generally aware' of the football tampering. We could call this DateGate.

        We should bar Biden from the White House for four games weeks.

        George KG Offline
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        George K
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        #3

        @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

        Ooo, somebody arranged for somebody to meet the president! Hang 'im!

        Um...when it's part of a business (cough) deal, it's rather illegal. It's called influence peddling. Also, he was VP at the time.

        Also, did Hunter pay taxes on the perk of riding on AF2?

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        • George KG George K

          @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

          Ooo, somebody arranged for somebody to meet the president! Hang 'im!

          Um...when it's part of a business (cough) deal, it's rather illegal. It's called influence peddling. Also, he was VP at the time.

          Also, did Hunter pay taxes on the perk of riding on AF2?

          Catseye3C Offline
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          Catseye3
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          @george-k I'm just so sick of this story. It's been on life support longer than Terri Schiavo.

          I'll bet there's no such thing as any administration that hasn't been at the very least looked at closely for influence peddlling.

          Get over it.

          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

          George KG 1 Reply Last reply
          • Catseye3C Catseye3

            @george-k I'm just so sick of this story. It's been on life support longer than Terri Schiavo.

            I'll bet there's no such thing as any administration that hasn't been at the very least looked at closely for influence peddlling.

            Get over it.

            George KG Offline
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            George K
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            #5

            @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

            I'll bet there's no such thing as any administration that hasn't been at the very least looked at closely for influence peddlling.

            Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

            Either it is a big deal or it's not.

            Decide.

            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            • JollyJ Offline
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              Jolly
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              But Trump...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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              • George KG George K

                @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                I'll bet there's no such thing as any administration that hasn't been at the very least looked at closely for influence peddlling.

                Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                Either it is a big deal or it's not.

                Decide.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
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                @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                No, it wasn't that similar.

                But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                  Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                  No, it wasn't that similar.

                  But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                  George KG Offline
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                  George K
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                  @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                  If it's important to you, it's important.

                  Here's what's important to me: The media became apoplectic about Trump (allegedly) paying a pornstar for sex. They impeached him because of alleged indiscretions in Ukraine.

                  And here we are, with documentation on the Vice-President's son selling influence. And nobody raises an eyebrow.

                  If we had a curious press, this would be on page one...as it was a few short years ago.

                  It's not called the "ostrich media" for no reason.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  • Catseye3C Catseye3

                    @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                    Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                    No, it wasn't that similar.

                    But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                    JollyJ Offline
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                    Jolly
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                    #9

                    @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                    @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                    Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                    No, it wasn't that similar.

                    But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                    And there's the problem.

                    If it was important for the nation concerning Trump, it should be just as important for Biden, especially when we have all of Hunter's documentation for proof.

                    But because it's not Trump, it's not important to you. Just as equal treatment under the law, due process and civil rights under the Constitution should apply equally to all. But that doesn't matter.

                    Public opinion shaped by a dishonest and biased press, doesn't matter.

                    Well, what does matter? What should concern us? Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                      @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                      Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                      No, it wasn't that similar.

                      But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                      And there's the problem.

                      If it was important for the nation concerning Trump, it should be just as important for Biden, especially when we have all of Hunter's documentation for proof.

                      But because it's not Trump, it's not important to you. Just as equal treatment under the law, due process and civil rights under the Constitution should apply equally to all. But that doesn't matter.

                      Public opinion shaped by a dishonest and biased press, doesn't matter.

                      Well, what does matter? What should concern us? Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

                      Catseye3C Offline
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                      Catseye3
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                      #10

                      @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                      Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

                      It'd be a lot fucking quieter.

                      Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                        Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

                        It'd be a lot fucking quieter.

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                        @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                        @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                        Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

                        It'd be a lot fucking quieter.

                        Jesus H. Christ.

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                          And they vote.😨😨😨

                          “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                          Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          • George KG George K

                            https://jonathanturley.org/2021/07/02/new-emails-reveal-hunter-biden-using-access-to-his-father-for-mexican-deals/

                            We have previously discussed the concerted and often embarrassing blackout in the media on stories involving Hunter Biden’s influence peddling during his father’s tenure as Vice President. That includes the burying of the laptop story and the growing contradictions over his father’s denial of any knowledge or involvement in his shady business dealings. Even recent reports that Hunter may have paid prostitutes with his father’s account were blacked out by mainstream media which exhaustively pursued any story related to the Trump children and their dealings and life styles.

                            At least Trump paid for his own hookers.

                            Now, however, there is a major allegation that Hunter used access to his father to seal previously unknown deals with Mexican businessmen, including Carlos Slim. A picture shows Hunter with the businessmen in the Vice President residence with his father.

                            As in the past, Americans interested in such stories have had to rely on the foreign press or a couple domestic sites for such information.

                            The new emails include references to the use of Air Force II by Hunter Biden to pursue the deals — a similar pattern revealed with regard to the China dealings. The emails detail a number of visits to Mexico, including a February 2016 flight on Air Force II with his father. On the plane was his business partner Jeff Cooper, who ran Illinois-based SimmonsCooper. That is one of the largest asbestos litigation firms in the country and Hunter was given 3 percent of Cooper’s venture capital firm Eudora Global, according to emails. President Biden’s brother (who featured in past controversial deals) was also reportedly involved in some of these efforts.

                            These dealings continued into 2018 as Hunter pushed for deals with Slim. One text message from July 24, 2018 reads “Spoke to my dad about ‘Slim ask” and Cooper responds “Oh that sounds SO F’ING GOOD.”

                            The "big guy..."

                            Hunter arranged for then Vice President Biden to have dinner on April 16, 2015 with his Ukrainian, Russian and Kazakhstani business associates. They appropriately chose a private room at Café Milano, a Georgetown restaurant that brags that it is “Where the world’s most powerful people go.” After the dinner, Hunter received an email from Vadym Pozharskyi, an executive with the Ukrainian energy company Burisma, to thank him for introducing him to his father: “Dear Hunter, thank you for inviting me to DC and giving an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together. It’s realty [sic] an honor and pleasure.”

                            Whoopsie

                            It is clear that Hunter Biden was selling access and influence. It appears that Joe Biden was aware of that effort. That is very serious. If these emails are false, this is a major story. If they are true, this is a major scandal. Presumably, however, this story will result in another run to the nearest ice cream shop for breathless coverage on the current frozen delights of the President.

                            How long before this becomes a big story?

                            jon-nycJ Online
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                            jon-nyc
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                            @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                            At least Trump paid for his own hookers.

                            I must say I admire that in a man.

                            Only non-witches get due process.

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                            • JollyJ Jolly

                              And they vote.😨😨😨

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                              @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                              And they vote.

                              No, I'n too dumb to vote. The oncet time i tried I got stuck in teh booth and coont get out an they sed i coont come back no more. I sed it wuz my constitual right to vote and they sed no it aint, yur too dumb. They had a uniform an everthing so I gess they wuz bein truthful.

                              Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                Your words, not mine. If you want to self-identify as stupid, it's your business.

                                In the meantime, people have elected a man whose son seems like he's just a hop, skip and a snort from granting the highest bidder access to The Big Guy.

                                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                • JollyJ Jolly

                                  Your words, not mine. If you want to self-identify as stupid, it's your business.

                                  In the meantime, people have elected a man whose son seems like he's just a hop, skip and a snort from granting the highest bidder access to The Big Guy.

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                                  @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                                  Your words, not mine. If you want to self-identify as stupid, it's your business. <

                                  Satire isn't your long suit, is it?

                                  In the meantime, people have elected a man whose son seems like he's just a hop, skip and a snort from granting the highest bidder access to The Big Guy.<

                                  You're right, I was wrong to be flippant. Obviously we are a spit in the wind away from devastation and ruin. It's a mystification that we lasted as long as we did.

                                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                                  • JollyJ Jolly

                                    @catseye3 said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                                    @george-k said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                                    Didn't Trump get impeached for something similar (Ukraine)?

                                    No, it wasn't that similar.

                                    But never mind. I take back what I said. I forgot my promise to myself to not get involved in this type of discussion. I meant what I said, but I regret saying it. You exercise your political passions however you wish. If it's important to you, it's important.

                                    And there's the problem.

                                    If it was important for the nation concerning Trump, it should be just as important for Biden, especially when we have all of Hunter's documentation for proof.

                                    But because it's not Trump, it's not important to you. Just as equal treatment under the law, due process and civil rights under the Constitution should apply equally to all. But that doesn't matter.

                                    Public opinion shaped by a dishonest and biased press, doesn't matter.

                                    Well, what does matter? What should concern us? Or should we just "get over" all of it and let the country slide into just a big version of a banana republic?

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                                    @jolly said in "No knowledge of his business - we've never talked about it.":

                                    If it was important for the nation concerning Trump, it should be just as important for Biden

                                    More important because after Trump, he should know better.

                                    Lock him up

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