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What an absolute stack of horseshit.

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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    Since I mentioned across the fence, they seem to like this article. I've already given my opinion...

    https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2021/07/george-packer-four-americas/619012/

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #2

      I read it.

      My thing is, I'm done with giving time for political positions that are basically name-calling. Which this is.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

        I read it.

        My thing is, I'm done with giving time for political positions that are basically name-calling. Which this is.

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        Loki
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        #3

        I tried to read it and couldn’t stay focused. Maybe I’ll try again but the two reviews I just read aren’t helping. LOL

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          I suspect Packer gets paid by the word.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            You want Americans to like each other a bit more? Three solutions:

            1. Teach Civics as an ongoing part of the curriculum, 1st-8th grade. By the time a kid gets to high school, he/she should have a very good understanding of the three branches of government, how they were created, what their responsibilities are and how disputes between the branches should be handled. Teach them everyday civics skills, such as how the local legal system works, how to contact and influence elected officials, how the voting process works locally and why it is important they participate, because they will get the government they deserve.

            2. Take all the social engineering trash out of school. Now. Kids need to learn math, science, how to write a proper sentence, American history and to a lesser degree, world history. Every American kid should graduate from high school knowing a smidgen of another language and how to run a household, from the checkbook to the cookstove. Every American kid should know the basics of how to use the information highway to further his studies, his career and his skill set.

            3. Every American kid should serve one year of national service, immediately upon turning 18. They need to be inducted into service and they should spend at least six weeks in basic training, suited to their physical abilities. During their year of service, they should serve in the military or they can be sent around the country for public works projects. The point of this is to throw together kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, build unit cohesion and create a little pride in country. After the year of service, kids receive a voucher for two years of trade school or state university, take their pick.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              You want Americans to like each other a bit more? Three solutions:

              1. Teach Civics as an ongoing part of the curriculum, 1st-8th grade. By the time a kid gets to high school, he/she should have a very good understanding of the three branches of government, how they were created, what their responsibilities are and how disputes between the branches should be handled. Teach them everyday civics skills, such as how the local legal system works, how to contact and influence elected officials, how the voting process works locally and why it is important they participate, because they will get the government they deserve.

              2. Take all the social engineering trash out of school. Now. Kids need to learn math, science, how to write a proper sentence, American history and to a lesser degree, world history. Every American kid should graduate from high school knowing a smidgen of another language and how to run a household, from the checkbook to the cookstove. Every American kid should know the basics of how to use the information highway to further his studies, his career and his skill set.

              3. Every American kid should serve one year of national service, immediately upon turning 18. They need to be inducted into service and they should spend at least six weeks in basic training, suited to their physical abilities. During their year of service, they should serve in the military or they can be sent around the country for public works projects. The point of this is to throw together kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, build unit cohesion and create a little pride in country. After the year of service, kids receive a voucher for two years of trade school or state university, take their pick.

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              @jolly said in What an absolute stack of horseshit.:

              You want Americans to like each other a bit more? Three solutions:

              1. Teach Civics as an ongoing part of the curriculum, 1st-8th grade. By the time a kid gets to high school, he/she should have a very good understanding of the three branches of government, how they were created, what their responsibilities are and how disputes between the branches should be handled. Teach them everyday civics skills, such as how the local legal system works, how to contact and influence elected officials, how the voting process works locally and why it is important they participate, because they will get the government they deserve.

              2. Take all the social engineering trash out of school. Now. Kids need to learn math, science, how to write a proper sentence, American history and to a lesser degree, world history. Every American kid should graduate from high school knowing a smidgen of another language and how to run a household, from the checkbook to the cookstove. Every American kid should know the basics of how to use the information highway to further his studies, his career and his skill set.

              3. Every American kid should serve one year of national service, immediately upon turning 18. They need to be inducted into service and they should spend at least six weeks in basic training, suited to their physical abilities. During their year of service, they should serve in the military or they can be sent around the country for public works projects. The point of this is to throw together kids from different socio-economic backgrounds, build unit cohesion and create a little pride in country. After the year of service, kids receive a voucher for two years of trade school or state university, take their pick.

              I can support all three. Note that for #1 and #2, you will need a federal Department of Education to implement across the country, the one department that self-proclaimed Conservatives and Republican politicians like to eliminate.

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                Jolly
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                I don't think you do. You may not get 100% compliance, but I think by having some districts leading by example, coupled with some budgetary sugar plums, will produce the desired results.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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