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  • George KG George K

    @loki is this a new Larson?

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    @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

    @loki is this a new Larson?

    I think 2020. It’s amazing. I have read so much Churchill but am learning more. Mostly what makes it so good is that you have a fiction writer take on non fiction and you just don’t want to put it down… even though you know the ending.

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      @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

      @loki is this a new Larson?

      I think 2020. It’s amazing. I have read so much Churchill but am learning more. Mostly what makes it so good is that you have a fiction writer take on non fiction and you just don’t want to put it down… even though you know the ending.

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      @loki I have read some of his other books and they were really good.

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        I wouldn’t call Larson a fiction writer. He writes almost exclusively non fiction.

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          Elbows up!

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              People have been preaching for decades that "Calories in = Calories out."

              Fung puts lie to that mantra. It's a very complicated picture and it's not only what you eat, but what you absorb (your gut bacteria have a lot to do with that), but your absorption, once it happens is regulated by hormonal factors.

              Ghrelin is the mind-killer.

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              @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

              People have been preaching for decades that "Calories in = Calories out."

              Fung puts lie to that mantra. It's a very complicated picture and it's not only what you eat, but what you absorb (your gut bacteria have a lot to do with that), but your absorption, once it happens is regulated by hormonal factors.

              Ghrelin is the mind-killer.

              But where are the studies that confirm his approach to weight loss?

              All studies I know of that are conclusive and can be replicated show that, in the big picture, all that matters for weight is whether one eats in a surplus or in a deficit. Want to loose weight? Either eat less calories, or increase calorie expenditure (e.g. by moving more), or both. Macros don't matter much. "Set point" doesn't matter much: If you are in a deficit, you'll loose weight; if you eat in a surplus, you'll gain weight, no matter what the "set point" is. I was overweight for 20 years and then lost 70 pounds. It wasn't easy and it takes a lot of discipline to not get back to my old weight, but I don't give a flying fuck about what my "set point" is. At the end of the day, it's a question of willpower and discipline.

              People don't like that picture. They are looking for a scape goat ("it's my genetics" or ...) and for shortcuts. That's why we are so eager to believe in all kinds of alternative realities. But you can't bend the first law of thermodynamics. In a sense, "calories in, calories out" is tautologically true. I know of course that things are more complicated, e.g. calorie expenditure is not independent of calorie intake, base metabolic rate isn't constant and depends on..., ketosis, ... . But what the studies I know of suggest is that these considerations don't have much effect in practice for healthy adults.

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                @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                People have been preaching for decades that "Calories in = Calories out."

                Fung puts lie to that mantra. It's a very complicated picture and it's not only what you eat, but what you absorb (your gut bacteria have a lot to do with that), but your absorption, once it happens is regulated by hormonal factors.

                Ghrelin is the mind-killer.

                But where are the studies that confirm his approach to weight loss?

                All studies I know of that are conclusive and can be replicated show that, in the big picture, all that matters for weight is whether one eats in a surplus or in a deficit. Want to loose weight? Either eat less calories, or increase calorie expenditure (e.g. by moving more), or both. Macros don't matter much. "Set point" doesn't matter much: If you are in a deficit, you'll loose weight; if you eat in a surplus, you'll gain weight, no matter what the "set point" is. I was overweight for 20 years and then lost 70 pounds. It wasn't easy and it takes a lot of discipline to not get back to my old weight, but I don't give a flying fuck about what my "set point" is. At the end of the day, it's a question of willpower and discipline.

                People don't like that picture. They are looking for a scape goat ("it's my genetics" or ...) and for shortcuts. That's why we are so eager to believe in all kinds of alternative realities. But you can't bend the first law of thermodynamics. In a sense, "calories in, calories out" is tautologically true. I know of course that things are more complicated, e.g. calorie expenditure is not independent of calorie intake, base metabolic rate isn't constant and depends on..., ketosis, ... . But what the studies I know of suggest is that these considerations don't have much effect in practice for healthy adults.

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                @klaus said in What are you reading now?:

                Want to loose weight? Either eat less calories, or increase calorie expenditure (e.g. by moving more), or both.

                Yes, no question

                Some people may absorb or burn faster than others, but diet and exercise determine the outcome.

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                  Interesting book so far.

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                  From the late 19th century, when the Raj was at its height, many of Britain's best and brightest young men went out to India to work as administrators, soldiers and businessmen. With the advent of steam travel and the opening of the Suez Canal, countless young women, suffering at the lack of eligible men in Britain, followed in their wake. They were known as the Fishing Fleet, and this book is their story.
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                    I continue my dive into Alastair Reynolds' books.

                    Started this today:

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                    1. Humanity has raised exploiting the solar system to an art form. Bella Lind and the crew of her nuclear-powered ship, the Rockhopper, push ice. They mine comets. And they're good at it.

                    The Rockhopper is nearing the end of its current mission cycle, and everyone is desperate for some much-needed R & R, when startling news arrives from Saturn: Janus, one of Saturn's ice moons, has inexplicably left its natural orbit and is now heading out of the solar system at high speed. As layers of camouflage fall away, it becomes clear that Janus was never a moon in the first place. It's some kind of machine -- and it is now headed toward a fuzzily glimpsed artifact 260 light-years away.

                    The Rockhopper is the only ship anywhere near Janus, and Bella Lind is ordered to shadow it for the few vital days before it falls forever out of reach. In accepting this mission, she sets her ship and her crew on a collision course with destiny -- for Janus has more surprises in store, and not all of them are welcome.

                    So different from Reynolds' other stuff. As I've said before, his other stuff is complex, obscure and demands total immersion and attention. This, OTOH, is a "popcorn" book - at least that's my impression after having read only about 10% of the book.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      I've been on an Alastair Reynolds kick for the last several months, as you might realize. I've read all the books, novellas, and short stories in the "Revelation Space" series. Some of them twice (much better on the 2nd read, by the way).

                      Apparently, Reynolds was asked, in an interview, whether he would ever write a book that could be made into a popular movie. He thought about it, and this was the result.

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                      I'm such a sucker for good science fiction.

                      This is a quick and easy read (about 500 pages, and I'm halfway through in the last 3 days). Though easy (unlike the RS books books) that's not to say that it's lacking in scope or vision. Pretty simple tale, but well told.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        I've been on an Alastair Reynolds kick for the last several months, as you might realize. I've read all the books, novellas, and short stories in the "Revelation Space" series. Some of them twice (much better on the 2nd read, by the way).

                        Apparently, Reynolds was asked, in an interview, whether he would ever write a book that could be made into a popular movie. He thought about it, and this was the result.

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                        I'm such a sucker for good science fiction.

                        This is a quick and easy read (about 500 pages, and I'm halfway through in the last 3 days). Though easy (unlike the RS books books) that's not to say that it's lacking in scope or vision. Pretty simple tale, but well told.

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                        @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

                        I'm such a sucker for good science fiction.

                        This is a quick and easy read (about 500 pages, and I'm halfway through in the last 3 days). Though easy (unlike the RS books books) that's not to say that it's lacking in scope or vision. Pretty simple tale, but well told.

                        Yup. Good tale.

                        Reynolds is an adherent to the "gun on the mantle" storytelling school.

                        This is a sprawling grand tale that leaves you totally satisfied. What's fun is that the prologue to the book throws a bunch of stuff out that you've forgotten. Halfway through the book, he revisits the stuff from the prologue, but, you've forgotten that he said all that stuff.

                        When you're done, and read the epilogue, you say, "Wait...I have to go back and re-read the prologue."

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Up next...

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                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                            Up next...

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                            @george-k said in What are you reading now?:

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                            What a great read. So funny.

                            Very much in the spirit of the movie it inspired, rather than the smarmy TV show that followed.

                            (no, the shower scene is not in the book)

                            "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                            The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                @kluurs said in What are you reading now?:

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                                Be really interested to hear your thoughts on this one.

                                Please love yourself.

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                                  @kluurs said in What are you reading now?:

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                                  So, why is weight lifting a waste of time? And also cardio?

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    @kluurs said in What are you reading now?:

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                                    So, why is weight lifting a waste of time? And also cardio?

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                                    @horace
                                    The author sites several studies that suggest resistance training is actually a more effective strategy for building muscle than weight lifting. His goal is creating muscle mass - and cites studies that cardio won't aid the goal of lean muscle mass. He also is selling equipment for resistance training - so a good marketer.

                                    Of course, every runner will cite studies showing the opposite. I actually have lifted for most of my life. The one thing that is interesting is the suggestion that one should focus on the amount of time under load as opposed to the number of repetitions. Thus, one should aim at muscle fatigue rather than just rote repetitions.

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                                      @horace
                                      The author sites several studies that suggest resistance training is actually a more effective strategy for building muscle than weight lifting. His goal is creating muscle mass - and cites studies that cardio won't aid the goal of lean muscle mass. He also is selling equipment for resistance training - so a good marketer.

                                      Of course, every runner will cite studies showing the opposite. I actually have lifted for most of my life. The one thing that is interesting is the suggestion that one should focus on the amount of time under load as opposed to the number of repetitions. Thus, one should aim at muscle fatigue rather than just rote repetitions.

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                                      @kluurs said in What are you reading now?:

                                      @horace
                                      The author sites several studies that suggest resistance training is actually a more effective strategy for building muscle than weight lifting. His goal is creating muscle mass - and cites studies that cardio won't aid the goal of lean muscle mass. He also is selling equipment for resistance training - so a good marketer.

                                      Of course, every runner will cite studies showing the opposite. I actually have lifted for most of my life. The one thing that is interesting is the suggestion that one should focus on the amount of time under load as opposed to the number of repetitions. Thus, one should aim at muscle fatigue rather than just rote repetitions.

                                      Interesting. I remember a "super slow" theory of weight lifting, where you spend 30 seconds per rep. That idea has been around for a long time, but it's never been well respected. I think enough people tried it in the free weight world that if it worked well, it would have been recognized as useful.

                                      I think I'll get that Gary Taubes book.

                                      Education is extremely important.

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                                        @kluurs said in What are you reading now?:

                                        @horace
                                        The author sites several studies that suggest resistance training is actually a more effective strategy for building muscle than weight lifting. His goal is creating muscle mass - and cites studies that cardio won't aid the goal of lean muscle mass. He also is selling equipment for resistance training - so a good marketer.

                                        Of course, every runner will cite studies showing the opposite. I actually have lifted for most of my life. The one thing that is interesting is the suggestion that one should focus on the amount of time under load as opposed to the number of repetitions. Thus, one should aim at muscle fatigue rather than just rote repetitions.

                                        Interesting. I remember a "super slow" theory of weight lifting, where you spend 30 seconds per rep. That idea has been around for a long time, but it's never been well respected. I think enough people tried it in the free weight world that if it worked well, it would have been recognized as useful.

                                        I think I'll get that Gary Taubes book.

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                                        @horace said in What are you reading now?:

                                        Interesting. I remember a "super slow" theory of weight lifting, where you spend 30 seconds per rep. That idea has been around for a long time, but it's never been well respected. I think enough people tried it in the free weight world that if it worked well, it would have been recognized as useful.

                                        A friend of mine runs a gym in DC that specializes in that. It seems to work for them, but they also do a little bit of everything, not just the slow rep stuff.

                                        Anyway, whatever. The best exercise you can do is whatever you're actually going to want to do on a habitual basis.

                                        Please love yourself.

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                                          @horace said in What are you reading now?:

                                          Interesting. I remember a "super slow" theory of weight lifting, where you spend 30 seconds per rep. That idea has been around for a long time, but it's never been well respected. I think enough people tried it in the free weight world that if it worked well, it would have been recognized as useful.

                                          A friend of mine runs a gym in DC that specializes in that. It seems to work for them, but they also do a little bit of everything, not just the slow rep stuff.

                                          Anyway, whatever. The best exercise you can do is whatever you're actually going to want to do on a habitual basis.

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                                          @aqua-letifer said in What are you reading now?:

                                          The best exercise you can do is whatever you're actually going to want to do on a habitual basis.

                                          To a point. I redd a pretty convincing argument that emphasizes the importance of balance. That the tendency is to put more energy into muscles that hurt less and give more productive results, with the result that the weaker muscles get shorter and shorter shrift.

                                          Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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