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Previous Pandemics

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  • HoraceH Offline
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    I think it's safe to say that our life expectations are much higher these days than for folk 100 years ago.

    Education is extremely important.

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    • jon-nycJ Offline
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      #4

      If this one was only on track to kill 100k without a shutdown we wouldn’t have had it.

      Only non-witches get due process.

      • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

        If this one was only on track to kill 100k without a shutdown we wouldn’t have had it.

        George KG Offline
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        #5

        @jon-nyc exactly.

        There is no timeline shown for the previous ones. This has be just over 4 months.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          #6

          Right and with a pretty large scale shutdown.

          Only non-witches get due process.

          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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          • CopperC Offline
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            So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

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            • CopperC Copper

              So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

              taiwan_girlT Offline
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              taiwan_girl
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              #8

              @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

              So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

              I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

              What do you think Copper?

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              • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                What do you think Copper?

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                @taiwan_girl said in Previous Pandemics:

                @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                What do you think Copper?

                The open question is did we inflect overall deaths or are we spreading them out?

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                • George KG George K

                  @jon-nyc exactly.

                  There is no timeline shown for the previous ones. This has be just over 4 months.

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                  @George-K said in Previous Pandemics:

                  @jon-nyc exactly.

                  There is no timeline shown for the previous ones. This has be just over 4 months.

                  Equivalency would be about 160,000 over 8 months. Nothing to sneeze at. I think the bigger issue is the number of people being hospitalized.

                  The Brad

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                  • L Loki

                    @taiwan_girl said in Previous Pandemics:

                    @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                    So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                    I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                    What do you think Copper?

                    The open question is did we inflect overall deaths or are we spreading them out?

                    LuFins DadL Offline
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                    #11

                    @Loki said in Previous Pandemics:

                    @taiwan_girl said in Previous Pandemics:

                    @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                    So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                    I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                    What do you think Copper?

                    The open question is did we inflect overall deaths or are we spreading them out?

                    And that’s the other question. I haven’t been following, but has the theory that there would be just as many cases but spread out been disproven yet?

                    The Brad

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                      And let’s not pretend that current generations aren’t more risk averse than prior.

                      The Brad

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                      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                        @Loki said in Previous Pandemics:

                        @taiwan_girl said in Previous Pandemics:

                        @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                        So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                        I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                        What do you think Copper?

                        The open question is did we inflect overall deaths or are we spreading them out?

                        And that’s the other question. I haven’t been following, but has the theory that there would be just as many cases but spread out been disproven yet?

                        jon-nycJ Offline
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                        @LuFins-Dad said in Previous Pandemics:

                        And that’s the other question. I haven’t been following, but has the theory that there would be just as many cases but spread out been disproven yet?

                        Sovereign is he who sets the null hypothesis.

                        Only non-witches get due process.

                        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                        • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                          @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                          So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                          I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                          What do you think Copper?

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                          @taiwan_girl said in Previous Pandemics:

                          @Copper said in Previous Pandemics:

                          So the assumption is that the shutdown has had some effect.

                          I think it has. I think without the shutdown and other "social" things in place worldwide, the dead toll would be much higher.

                          What do you think Copper?

                          I have no basis for that kind of speculation.

                          I know just about everyone is an expert on this, but I think that at some point just about everyone is speculating. Which is, of course, to be expected.

                          It would be nice if we knew for sure. If we did we could take the appropriate action.

                          We shut everything down with only slightly less information than we have now opening up.

                          I think it is reasonable to assume the lock-down hurt a lot of people financially. Maybe it will help in the long run.

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