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  • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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    Doctor Phibes
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    This is a little scary, I'd heard stories about this before - it's also not going to do much to help the drive to vaccinate everybody.

    I was only joking

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    • CopperC Offline
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      Copper
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      #3

      How do I remove the vaccine?

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #4

        How do I become a young adult again?

        I was only joking

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        • LuFins DadL Offline
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          #5

          https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-sees-probable-link-between-pfizer-vaccine-small-number-myocarditis-cases-2021-06-01/

          The Brad

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            Loki
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            #6

            How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

            How often do people get myocarditis from other causes? How serious is it long term?

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            • L Loki

              How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

              How often do people get myocarditis from other causes? How serious is it long term?

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              Doctor Phibes
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              #7

              @loki said in In my email...:

              How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

              Hey, all those people that have been saying that the virus is totally overblown will undoubtedly say this is like having a head-cold, amirite?

              I was only joking

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              • L Loki

                How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

                How often do people get myocarditis from other causes? How serious is it long term?

                Doctor PhibesD Offline
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                Doctor Phibes
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                @loki said in In my email...:

                How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                It has been linked to Covid.

                I was only joking

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @loki said in In my email...:

                  How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

                  Hey, all those people that have been saying that the virus is totally overblown will undoubtedly say this is like having a head-cold, amirite?

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                  Jolly
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                  @doctor-phibes said in In my email...:

                  @loki said in In my email...:

                  How does this problem square against 611,000 deaths and the millions additional without a vaccine?

                  Hey, all those people that have been saying that the virus is totally overblown will undoubtedly say this is like having a head-cold, amirite?

                  Dunno, I've had worse head colds.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Loki
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                    CDC says this stuff is rare, often subclinical and the Mayo Clinic says minor instances heal on their own.

                    https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/myocarditis.html

                    200,000 cases a year prior to Covid so we have a baseline and we will see where this goes.

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                      @loki said in In my email...:

                      How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                      Myocarditis is rare in younger people, to be sure. When looking at the 600K-plus deaths, the fraction of younger people should be considered when looking at the incidence of myocarditis.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      • George KG George K

                        @loki said in In my email...:

                        How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                        Myocarditis is rare in younger people, to be sure. When looking at the 600K-plus deaths, the fraction of younger people should be considered when looking at the incidence of myocarditis.

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                        @george-k said in In my email...:

                        @loki said in In my email...:

                        How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                        Myocarditis is rare in younger people, to be sure. When looking at the 600K-plus deaths, the fraction of younger people should be considered when looking at the incidence of myocarditis.

                        This ☝️. We’re talking 16-19 year old boys. Over 600 cases in Israel. I doubt there were many cases of COVID in16-19 year old boys in Israel? I would love to see the comparison.

                        The Brad

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                        • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                          @george-k said in In my email...:

                          @loki said in In my email...:

                          How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                          Myocarditis is rare in younger people, to be sure. When looking at the 600K-plus deaths, the fraction of younger people should be considered when looking at the incidence of myocarditis.

                          This ☝️. We’re talking 16-19 year old boys. Over 600 cases in Israel. I doubt there were many cases of COVID in16-19 year old boys in Israel? I would love to see the comparison.

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                          @lufins-dad said in In my email...:

                          @george-k said in In my email...:

                          @loki said in In my email...:

                          How often do people get myocarditis from other causes?

                          Myocarditis is rare in younger people, to be sure. When looking at the 600K-plus deaths, the fraction of younger people should be considered when looking at the incidence of myocarditis.

                          This ☝️. We’re talking 16-19 year old boys. Over 600 cases in Israel. I doubt there were many cases of COVID in16-19 year old boys in Israel? I would love to see the comparison.

                          I have kids and nephews/nieces slightly older (actually Israel says their risk is greater). Personally I have not heard one story of a side effect from the vaccine. I have read the studies.

                          Honestly I wouldn’t spend a nanosecond worrying. You did the right thing and hopefully he is feeling better.

                          If the advice is take one shot where there is no evidence of myocarditis that would be fine. 85% effective after that.

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                            This entire exercise is one of risk management. For some of us, the numbers are 1% vs .00005%. That's a huge difference. For others, the numbers might be .0003% vs .00005%. For teenagers, the numbers might be even lower.

                            The Brad

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