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The Paradox of Tolerance

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    The paradox of tolerance – Back in the 1940s, the philosopher Karl Popper came up with something called “The Paradox of Tolerance.” It goes like this:

    If everyone is tolerant of every idea, then intolerant ideas will emerge. Tolerant people will tolerate this intolerance, and the intolerant people will not tolerate the tolerant people. Eventually, the intolerant people will take over and create a society of intolerance. Therefore, Popper said, to maintain a society of tolerance, the tolerant must be intolerant of intolerance… hence the paradox.

    <Snip> For an expansion, goto https://markmanson.net/newsletters/mindfck-monday-85?

    The irony is that in order to practice tolerance, you must be willing to sit with things that upset you or make you uncomfortable. Yet, if your adopted ethic is that no one should ever be upset or uncomfortable, then you make any sort of tolerance impossible.

    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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      Pretty good explanation of what we are seeing.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        The paradox of tolerance – Back in the 1940s, the philosopher Karl Popper came up with something called “The Paradox of Tolerance.” It goes like this:

        If everyone is tolerant of every idea, then intolerant ideas will emerge. Tolerant people will tolerate this intolerance, and the intolerant people will not tolerate the tolerant people. Eventually, the intolerant people will take over and create a society of intolerance. Therefore, Popper said, to maintain a society of tolerance, the tolerant must be intolerant of intolerance… hence the paradox.

        <Snip> For an expansion, goto https://markmanson.net/newsletters/mindfck-monday-85?

        The irony is that in order to practice tolerance, you must be willing to sit with things that upset you or make you uncomfortable. Yet, if your adopted ethic is that no one should ever be upset or uncomfortable, then you make any sort of tolerance impossible.

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        @catseye3 said in The Paradox of Tolerance:

        Yet, if your adopted ethic is that no one should ever be upset or uncomfortable, then you make any sort of tolerance impossible.

        Nazis in Skokie - a classic example from when the ACLU stood for something other than whatever it stands for now.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          Pretty good explanation of what we are seeing.

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          @mik said in The Paradox of Tolerance:

          Pretty good explanation of what we are seeing.

          And add to that the intolerant people in the US tolerate the intertolerant people of other countries. Examples: the way women and LGTB are treated in many countries, how China treats the Uyghurs.

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            @mik said in The Paradox of Tolerance:

            Pretty good explanation of what we are seeing.

            And add to that the intolerant people in the US tolerate the intertolerant people of other countries. Examples: the way women and LGTB are treated in many countries, how China treats the Uyghurs.

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            @loki said in The Paradox of Tolerance:

            @mik said in The Paradox of Tolerance:

            Pretty good explanation of what we are seeing.

            And add to that the intolerant people in the US tolerate the intertolerant people of other countries. Examples: the way women and LGTB are treated in many countries, how China treats the Uyghurs.

            "America Bad" is a decent proxy for anything a woke person might think, if pressed.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • Catseye3C Catseye3

              The paradox of tolerance – Back in the 1940s, the philosopher Karl Popper came up with something called “The Paradox of Tolerance.” It goes like this:

              If everyone is tolerant of every idea, then intolerant ideas will emerge. Tolerant people will tolerate this intolerance, and the intolerant people will not tolerate the tolerant people. Eventually, the intolerant people will take over and create a society of intolerance. Therefore, Popper said, to maintain a society of tolerance, the tolerant must be intolerant of intolerance… hence the paradox.

              <Snip> For an expansion, goto https://markmanson.net/newsletters/mindfck-monday-85?

              The irony is that in order to practice tolerance, you must be willing to sit with things that upset you or make you uncomfortable. Yet, if your adopted ethic is that no one should ever be upset or uncomfortable, then you make any sort of tolerance impossible.

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              @catseye3

              Great post, Cats.

              Elbows up!

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