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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    #11

    Dude, it's Australia. Your wheelhouse.

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • JollyJ Jolly

      @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

      @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

      Sure guys, my disrespect for this publication is totally unfounded.

      You keep reading it, I'm sure you'll find it's a valuable use of your time.

      I'm off to play computer games.

      👆

      Ah, so both of you turds won't admit when anything is remotely unbiased or makes a cogent point.

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      Doctor Phibes
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      @jolly said in From American Thinker:

      @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

      @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

      Sure guys, my disrespect for this publication is totally unfounded.

      You keep reading it, I'm sure you'll find it's a valuable use of your time.

      I'm off to play computer games.

      👆

      Ah, so both of you turds won't admit when anything is remotely unbiased or makes a cogent point.

      Did I say that?

      In my previous job I used to do inspections of water treatment facilities, or as we called them, shit factories. Yes, I know, a funny job for somebody who has no idea about normal people, but there you go.

      Anyway, when we visited, you could get these enormous tomatoes that grew there in the sludge. Spectacularly good looking tomatoes.

      They still came from a shit factory.

      That's how I feel about the article.

      I was only joking

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      • JollyJ Offline
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        Jolly
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        #13

        I've flower beds that were made up with compost that used some sludge along with a good bit of chipped green material. The roses do particularly well.

        Maybe it's not the sludge that's the problem, but the person who knows how to use it.

        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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        • HoraceH Horace

          @jolly said in From American Thinker:

          How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

          Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

          Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

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          Doctor Phibes
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          #14

          @horace said in From American Thinker:

          @jolly said in From American Thinker:

          How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

          Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

          Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

          I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

          It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

          I was only joking

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          • JollyJ Jolly

            I've flower beds that were made up with compost that used some sludge along with a good bit of chipped green material. The roses do particularly well.

            Maybe it's not the sludge that's the problem, but the person who knows how to use it.

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            Doctor Phibes
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            #15

            @jolly said in From American Thinker:

            I've flower beds that were made up with compost that used some sludge along with a good bit of chipped green material. The roses do particularly well.

            Maybe it's not the sludge that's the problem, but the person who knows how to use it.

            I hope your sludge is OK - seriously, the places where we used to go the tomatoes weren't always safe to eat - cadmium and mercury tended to get in there.

            I was only joking

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            • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

              @horace said in From American Thinker:

              @jolly said in From American Thinker:

              How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

              Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

              Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

              I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

              It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

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              HoraceH Online
              Horace
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              #16

              @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

              @horace said in From American Thinker:

              @jolly said in From American Thinker:

              How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

              Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

              Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

              I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

              It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

              I have my issues with CNN's political slant, but I'll still admit when they are right. For instance, recently they wrote a story about how useful Apple's Airtags were. I unashamedly acknowledged that the story made excellent, factual points. I think we should all strive for that sort of egalitarian view of information sources.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

                @horace said in From American Thinker:

                @jolly said in From American Thinker:

                How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

                Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

                Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

                I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

                It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

                I have my issues with CNN's political slant, but I'll still admit when they are right. For instance, recently they wrote a story about how useful Apple's Airtags were. I unashamedly acknowledged that the story made excellent, factual points. I think we should all strive for that sort of egalitarian view of information sources.

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                Doctor PhibesD Online
                Doctor Phibes
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                #17

                @horace said in From American Thinker:

                @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

                @horace said in From American Thinker:

                @jolly said in From American Thinker:

                How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

                Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

                Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

                I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

                It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

                I have my issues with CNN's political slant, but I'll still admit when they are right. For instance, recently they wrote a story about how useful Apple's Airtags were. I unashamedly acknowledged that the story made excellent, factual points. I think we should all strive for that sort of egalitarian view of information sources.

                @horace said in From American Thinker:

                @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

                @horace said in From American Thinker:

                @jolly said in From American Thinker:

                How about at least one American Thinker piece per day?

                Think of it as an education in illiberal arts.

                Definitely would be good for the left leaning members of TNCR to open their minds to some good conservative ideas.

                I probably know more about battery technology than most people here, and I don't think it's a viable environmental solution in the long term without some big technology advances, as in I'm not a fucking idiot. But I don't want to read magazines that promoted that idiotic rubbish about Dominion and then backed right down when challenged.

                It's a rag, not a serious publication. I'll read The Spectator, not that shit.

                I have my issues with CNN's political slant, but I'll still admit when they are right. For instance, recently they wrote a story about how useful Apple's Airtags were. I unashamedly acknowledged that the story made excellent, factual points. I think we should all strive for that sort of egalitarian view of information sources.

                The problem is the unremitting bias, and the intent to peddle something, not whether they are occasionally right. I don't want to wade through the shit factory to find the tomato, I want to go to a fruit and vegetable store.

                I don't watch CNN, either.

                I was only joking

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                  Aqua Letifer
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                  My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk. I'm not a fan or anything, I just don't see how that tracks. You can in fact love, hate, or be indifferent to Musk and Tesla, and still be on this side of reason and rationality.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                    My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk. I'm not a fan or anything, I just don't see how that tracks. You can in fact love, hate, or be indifferent to Musk and Tesla, and still be on this side of reason and rationality.

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                    Doctor Phibes
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                    #19

                    @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                    My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk. I'm not a fan or anything, I just don't see how that tracks. You can in fact love, hate, or be indifferent to Musk and Tesla, and still be on this side of reason and rationality.

                    Windmills cause cancer and kill all the birds. To maintain environmental credibility, batteries are going to be charged by windmills, and Elon Musk makes battery powered cars.

                    Elon Musk causes cancer and kills all the birds. ALL. THE. FREAKING. BIRDS.

                    Any more questions?

                    I was only joking

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                      Horace
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                      I'm not clear on why or even if Musk is that much of a political lightning rod. I don't think he personally is much of a political tribalist. Though he'll happily pander to tribalists on the left with his messaging regarding the environment and how his products can save it.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • HoraceH Horace

                        I'm not clear on why or even if Musk is that much of a political lightning rod. I don't think he personally is much of a political tribalist. Though he'll happily pander to tribalists on the left with his messaging regarding the environment and how his products can save it.

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                        Aqua Letifer
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                        @horace said in From American Thinker:

                        if Musk is that much of a political lightning rod.

                        Find me a conservative "news" outlet that speaks highly of Musk or Tesla. Any.

                        Please love yourself.

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk. I'm not a fan or anything, I just don't see how that tracks. You can in fact love, hate, or be indifferent to Musk and Tesla, and still be on this side of reason and rationality.

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                          @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                          My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk.

                          We had this conversation a couple years ago.

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                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                            @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                            My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk.

                            We had this conversation a couple years ago.

                            Screen Shot 2021-05-25 at 9.54.39 AM.png

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                            @jon-nyc said in From American Thinker:

                            @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                            My thing is, I don't understand why, in order to be a right-thinking, intelligent and politically savvy individual, you have to hate Tesla and Elon Musk.

                            We had this conversation a couple years ago.

                            Screen Shot 2021-05-25 at 9.54.39 AM.png

                            And I think I responded similarly at the time.

                            It is reasonable to have an issue with Musk's pandering to some of the dumber environmental ideas of the left, while you know he's just interested in building his brand.

                            Education is extremely important.

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                              Doctor Phibes
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                              #24

                              The argument that The Left all mindlessly follow a narrative, whilst those on the right are all free-thinkers following an objective Truth doesn't really hold water.

                              It should be possible to be an American conservative and also believe that an oil-driven economy is inflicting lasting damage on the global environment, just as it should be possible to be an American liberal and believe that abortion-on-demand at 28 weeks (or even 8 weeks) is not morally acceptable.

                              I was only joking

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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                The argument that The Left all mindlessly follow a narrative, whilst those on the right are all free-thinkers following an objective Truth doesn't really hold water.

                                It should be possible to be an American conservative and also believe that an oil-driven economy is inflicting lasting damage on the global environment, just as it should be possible to be an American liberal and believe that abortion-on-demand at 28 weeks (or even 8 weeks) is not morally acceptable.

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                                Horace
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                                #25

                                @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

                                The argument that The Left all mindlessly follow a narrative, whilst those on the right are all free-thinkers following an objective Truth doesn't really hold water.

                                The most systematic difference between left- and right-leaning people I've noticed is that left-leaning people tend to be proud of their ability to let feeling and narrative overwhelm reason.

                                But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

                                Education is extremely important.

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                                • HoraceH Horace

                                  @doctor-phibes said in From American Thinker:

                                  The argument that The Left all mindlessly follow a narrative, whilst those on the right are all free-thinkers following an objective Truth doesn't really hold water.

                                  The most systematic difference between left- and right-leaning people I've noticed is that left-leaning people tend to be proud of their ability to let feeling and narrative overwhelm reason.

                                  But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

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                                  @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                  But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

                                  Works for the right, too, sorry.

                                  Please love yourself.

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                                  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                    @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                    But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

                                    Works for the right, too, sorry.

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                                    Horace
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                                    #27

                                    @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                                    @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                    But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

                                    Works for the right, too, sorry.

                                    Yes, it's a human thing, but in our current culture there is little to no social advantage, as one progresses up the status ladder, in being outwardly conservative.

                                    Education is extremely important.

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                                    • HoraceH Horace

                                      @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                                      @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                      But the most common reason for people to believe what they believe and say what they say about culture war issues, is to fit in socially. People will believe whatever is most socially advantageous for them to believe. Yes, all those woke white people are actually parroting ideas that are most socially advantageous to themselves. Funny how that works.

                                      Works for the right, too, sorry.

                                      Yes, it's a human thing, but in our current culture there is little to no social advantage, as one progresses up the status ladder, in being outwardly conservative.

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                                      @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                      Yes, it's a human thing, but in our current culture there is little to no social advantage, as one progresses up the status ladder, in being outwardly conservative.

                                      I don't think Jolly has any social incentive to publicly identify with liberalism.

                                      Please love yourself.

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                                      • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                                        @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                        Yes, it's a human thing, but in our current culture there is little to no social advantage, as one progresses up the status ladder, in being outwardly conservative.

                                        I don't think Jolly has any social incentive to publicly identify with liberalism.

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                                        @aqua-letifer said in From American Thinker:

                                        @horace said in From American Thinker:

                                        Yes, it's a human thing, but in our current culture there is little to no social advantage, as one progresses up the status ladder, in being outwardly conservative.

                                        I don't think Jolly has any social incentive to publicly identify with liberalism.

                                        Hollywood celebrities, including Ellen and Oprah, would be proud and thrilled by his courage.

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                                          Half the problem with America is everybody seems to think that California is leading the way.

                                          I was always under the impression that it was the nuttiest place in the world.

                                          People try and lump Massachusetts in with them, but they're nothing alike, at least in my experience.

                                          I was only joking

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