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  • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

    @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

    46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

    17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

    Why are these two so disparate?

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    Doctor Phibes
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    #3

    @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

    @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

    46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

    17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

    Why are these two so disparate?

    Because it takes a while for the drop in infections to filter through to a drop in deaths?

    I was only joking

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    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

      @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

      @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

      46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

      17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

      Why are these two so disparate?

      Because it takes a while for the drop in infections to filter through to a drop in deaths?

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      Aqua Letifer
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      #4

      @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

      @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

      @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

      46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

      17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

      Why are these two so disparate?

      Because it takes a while for the drop in infections to filter through to a drop in deaths?

      Yeah maybe so.

      Please love yourself.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #5

        It looks like the vaccine is working.

        Let's hope the plandemic brigade come to their senses and get the shot too.

        I was only joking

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          Loki
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          #6

          With respect to Congress 100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house and 92% of GOP senators.

          What a national embarrassment the House GOP are.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

            46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

            17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

            Why are these two so disparate?

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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #7

            @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

            @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

            46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

            17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

            Why are these two so disparate?

            1. Deaths are a lagging indicator

            2. Number of COVID tests are dropping. That could be a result of fewer cases, but I think it likely that a lot more mild cases are being explained away as allergies and such...

            The Brad

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            • L Loki

              With respect to Congress 100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house and 92% of GOP senators.

              What a national embarrassment the House GOP are.

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              Doctor Phibes
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              @loki said in US COVID Stats:

              With respect to Congress 100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house and 92% of GOP senators.

              What a national embarrassment the House GOP are.

              Remember, it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

              I was only joking

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              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                With respect to Congress 100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house and 92% of GOP senators.

                What a national embarrassment the House GOP are.

                Remember, it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

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                Horace
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                #9

                @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

                Agreed.

                Education is extremely important.

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                • L Loki

                  With respect to Congress 100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house and 92% of GOP senators.

                  What a national embarrassment the House GOP are.

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                  @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                  100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house

                  That is a line from a cnn story

                  Somehow you missed the part that says:

                  One hundred and twelve Republican offices did not respond to multiple CNN inquires.

                  And of course that 92% of Republican Senators does not include those who have not said if they have had the vaccine.

                  What a national embarrassment statistics can be.

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                  • CopperC Copper

                    @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                    100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house

                    That is a line from a cnn story

                    Somehow you missed the part that says:

                    One hundred and twelve Republican offices did not respond to multiple CNN inquires.

                    And of course that 92% of Republican Senators does not include those who have not said if they have had the vaccine.

                    What a national embarrassment statistics can be.

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                    LuFins Dad
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                    #11

                    @copper said in US COVID Stats:

                    @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                    100% of democrats are vaccinated and 44% of GOP house

                    That is a line from a cnn story

                    Somehow you missed the part that says:

                    One hundred and twelve Republican offices did not respond to multiple CNN inquires.

                    And of course that 92% of Republican Senators does not include those who have not said if they have had the vaccine.

                    What a national embarrassment statistics can be.

                    And the 100% of the Democrats are ones that
                    claim they are vaccinated, and we all know that we can’t trust what people say when it comes to the Vaccine. That’s why it’s masks up forever!

                    The Brad

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                      it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

                      Agreed.

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                      Doctor Phibes
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                      @horace said in US COVID Stats:

                      @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                      it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

                      Agreed.

                      The virus causing it seems to be mutating.

                      I was only joking

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                      • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                        @horace said in US COVID Stats:

                        @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                        it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

                        Agreed.

                        The virus causing it seems to be mutating.

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                        Doctor Phibes
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                        #13

                        @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                        @horace said in US COVID Stats:

                        @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                        it's liberalism that's the mental disorder.

                        Agreed.

                        The virus causing it seems to be mutating.

                        You can keep making excuses for these jackasses all day. They're still jackasses.

                        I was only joking

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                        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

                          @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                          46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

                          17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

                          Why are these two so disparate?

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                          jon-nyc
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                          #14

                          @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

                          @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                          46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

                          17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

                          Why are these two so disparate?

                          My guess is deaths already experienced a dramatic drop off earlier than 30 days ago when older people were being vaccinated

                          Only non-witches get due process.

                          • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                            LuFins Dad
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                            @jon-nyc said in US COVID Stats:

                            @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

                            @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                            46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

                            17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

                            Why are these two so disparate?

                            My guess is deaths already experienced a dramatic drop off earlier than 30 days ago when older people were being vaccinated

                            That was about 10 weeks ago...

                            The Brad

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                            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                              @jon-nyc said in US COVID Stats:

                              @aqua-letifer said in US COVID Stats:

                              @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                              46% drop in daily new cases over the last 30 days (currently 29K rolling 7-day average)

                              17% drop in deaths (currently 595 per day on a rolling 7 day average)

                              Why are these two so disparate?

                              My guess is deaths already experienced a dramatic drop off earlier than 30 days ago when older people were being vaccinated

                              That was about 10 weeks ago...

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                              jon-nyc
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                              @lufins-dad Makes sense.

                              You would expect cases and deaths to decline at a similar rate if the cohort being vaccinated was very similar to the modal death - old or with chronic conditions.

                              As you vaccinate (say) healthy-ish 40 year olds, you'd expect the cases to drop quite a bit faster than deaths.

                              Only non-witches get due process.

                              • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                              • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                It looks like the vaccine is working.

                                Let's hope the plandemic brigade come to their senses and get the shot too.

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                                taiwan_girl
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                                #17

                                @doctor-phibes said in US COVID Stats:

                                It looks like the vaccine is working.

                                Let's hope the plandemic brigade come to their senses and get the shot too.

                                Exactly. If people need any better proof of the effectiveness of the vaccine..........

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                                  Loki
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                                  #18

                                  Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because these kind of cases are overwhelmingly asymptomatic.

                                  Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

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                                  • L Loki

                                    Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because these kind of cases are overwhelmingly asymptomatic.

                                    Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

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                                    LuFins Dad
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                                    @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                    Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because they kind of cases are largely asymptomatic.

                                    Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

                                    Oh. So the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission?

                                    The Brad

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                                    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

                                      @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                      Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because they kind of cases are largely asymptomatic.

                                      Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

                                      Oh. So the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission?

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                                      Loki
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                                      @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                                      @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                      Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because they kind of cases are largely asymptomatic.

                                      Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

                                      Oh. So the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission?

                                      I’m sure it is but not 90% unless the event I know is a freak of statistics. All are old and asymptomatic. Low viral loads. It’s just when they make contact with unvaccinated people that things go bad.

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                                        @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                        All are old and asymptomatic. Low viral loads.

                                        Viral loads are interesting. COVID does not necessarily behave like other viruses when it comes to viral loads. For instance, when looking at HIV, high viral loads upon presentation which increase over short period of time, is a good indicator of disease severity and symptoms.

                                        COVID is a bit different. From what I've read, initial viral loads seem not to be as important as viral loads a week or so down the line. Those tend to be a better indicator of disease severity and possible mortality.

                                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                                        • L Loki

                                          @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                                          @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                          Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because they kind of cases are largely asymptomatic.

                                          Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

                                          Oh. So the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission?

                                          I’m sure it is but not 90% unless the event I know is a freak of statistics. All are old and asymptomatic. Low viral loads. It’s just when they make contact with unvaccinated people that things go bad.

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                                          LuFins Dad
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                                          @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                          @lufins-dad said in US COVID Stats:

                                          @loki said in US COVID Stats:

                                          Many more breakthrough cases than being reported. I have direct knowledge of a superspreader event from a breakthrough case that infected several fully vaccinated people. I have to believe the media will start picking up on this soon, but I wonder if vaccinated people are just not being tested because they kind of cases are largely asymptomatic.

                                          Anyway unvaccinated people have more chances than they realize, unless they just don’t care.

                                          Oh. So the vaccine isn’t preventing transmission?

                                          I’m sure it is but not 90% unless the event I know is a freak of statistics. All are old and asymptomatic. Low viral loads. It’s just when they make contact with unvaccinated people that things go bad.

                                          But it spread through a significant number of vaccinated people, without any or more than a few really getting sick?

                                          The Brad

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