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  • G George K
    10 May 2021, 12:37

    https://apnews.com/article/medina-spirit-kentucky-derby-positive-drug-test-bob-baffert-f91ccf1fb6a44c3f948a3a2cd2c8c1a9?utm_medium=ap&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=twitter

    Medina Spirit’s victory in the Kentucky Derby is in serious jeopardy because of a failed postrace drug test, one that led Churchill Downs to suspend Hall of Fame trainer Bob Baffert on Sunday in the latest scandal to plague the sport.

    Baffert denied all wrongdoing and promised to be fully transparent with the Kentucky Horse Racing Commission during its investigation. Baffert’s barn received word Saturday that Medina Spirit had tested positive for an excessive amount of the steroid betamethasone, which is sometimes used to treat pain and inflammation in horses.

    “To be clear, if the findings are upheld, Medina Spirit’s results in the Kentucky Derby will be invalidated and Mandaloun will be declared the winner,” Churchill Downs officials said in a statement shortly after Baffert held a hastily planned morning news conference outside his barn to announce and respond to the allegations.

    The track said failure to comply with the rules and medication protocols jeopardizes the safety of horses and jockeys, the sport’s integrity and the Derby’s reputation.

    Medina Spirit is Baffert’s fifth horse known to have failed a drug test in just over a year. Flanked by his attorney Craig Robertson, Baffert said his barn was told that Medina Spirit was found to have 21 picograms of betamethasone — slightly more than double what the trainer said was the allowable amount — in a postrace sample.

    Betamethasone is the same drug that was found in the system of Gamine, another Baffert-trained horse who finished third in the Kentucky Oaks last September. Gamine was eventually disqualified from that finish because of that test and Baffert was fined $1,500. Betamethasone is legal under Kentucky racing rules, though it must be cleared 14 days before a horse races.

    “I’m not a conspiracy theorist,” Baffert said. “I know everybody is not out to get me, but there’s definitely something wrong. Why is it happening to me? You know, there’s problems in racing, but it’s not Bob Baffert.”

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    Doctor Phibes
    wrote on 10 May 2021, 13:55 last edited by
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    @george-k said in Derby Drugs:

    “I’m not a conspiracy theorist,” Baffert said. “I know everybody is not out to get me, but there’s definitely something wrong. Why is it happening to me?

    Maybe because you keep giving your horses drugs?

    I was only joking

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      George K
      wrote on 10 May 2021, 21:09 last edited by
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      LOL

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Catseye3
        wrote on 10 May 2021, 21:41 last edited by Catseye3 5 Oct 2021, 21:43
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        AP: "Churchill Downs will not tolerate it,” the statement read. “Given the seriousness of the alleged offense, Churchill Downs will immediately suspend Bob Baffert, the trainer of Medina Spirit, from entering any horses at Churchill Downs Racetrack.”

        "Medina Spirit is expected to run in the Preakness on Saturday, barring some abrupt change in plans . . .

        And:

        "He’s a great horse. He doesn’t deserve this. He ran a gallant race,” Baffert added.

        ^^^^

        So why run the horse with painkillers on board if he's so great? And assuming he will be tested like crazy at the Preakness, will he even be able to run without the drug? Is that any way to treat a 'great horse'?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Mik
          wrote on 10 May 2021, 23:19 last edited by
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          What drugs showed up?

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            Copper
            wrote on 10 May 2021, 23:22 last edited by
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            Mr. Baffert has explained that the stories are not true.

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            • M Mik
              10 May 2021, 23:19

              What drugs showed up?

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              George K
              wrote on 10 May 2021, 23:25 last edited by
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              @mik betamethasone.

              At twice the allowed blood level.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 10 May 2021, 23:41 last edited by
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                Steroids. Ugh.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  Catseye3
                  wrote on 10 May 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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                  Yes, meant to address 'pain and inflammation'.

                  Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    Mik
                    wrote on 11 May 2021, 18:50 last edited by
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                    Annnd..."I guess we did it after all'.

                    https://www.aol.com/sports/bob-baffert-admits-treated-medina-164337375.html

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                      10 May 2021, 23:56

                      Yes, meant to address 'pain and inflammation'.

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                      George K
                      wrote on 11 May 2021, 19:03 last edited by
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                      @catseye3 said in Derby Drugs:

                      Yes, meant to address 'pain and inflammation'.

                      Well, steroids have no intrinsic analgesic properties. However, their anti-inflammatory properties do give a measure of pain relief as a secondary effect.

                      Horse vets still use “Bute” - butazoladine - for pain control as well. It’s a potent, potent antiflammatory. Good drug for humans too, unless it turns off your bone marrow.

                      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        Doctor Phibes
                        wrote on 11 May 2021, 19:19 last edited by
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                        Blaming 'cancel culture' for all kinds of shenaniganery is set to become a thing, I suspect.

                        I was only joking

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                        • D Doctor Phibes
                          11 May 2021, 19:19

                          Blaming 'cancel culture' for all kinds of shenaniganery is set to become a thing, I suspect.

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                          Horace
                          wrote on 11 May 2021, 20:28 last edited by
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                          @doctor-phibes said in Derby Drugs:

                          Blaming 'cancel culture' for all kinds of shenaniganery is set to become a thing, I suspect.

                          Yes, douches like this guy will use it as a convenient excuse, which will suck.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on 16 May 2021, 00:58 last edited by
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                            Rombauer left Medina Spirit behind -- and put horse racing's latest controversy on the back burner.

                            Little-known Rombauer sprung an 11-1 upset to win the Preakness on Saturday, passing Bob Baffert's Kentucky Derby winner to end a potential Triple Crown bid that would have carried a giant asterisk.
                            https://www.espn.com/horse-racing/story/_/id/31451355/rombauer-wins-2021-preakness-stakes-11-1-odds
                            ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                            A good thing. Racing dodged a bullet.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                              Mik
                              wrote on 16 May 2021, 02:44 last edited by
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                              Rombauer was magnificent. But then each Triple Crown race gets longer than the previous one.

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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