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  • JollyJ Jolly

    So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

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    @jolly said in 30 Years:

    So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

    Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

    Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

    Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

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    • AxtremusA Axtremus

      @jolly said in 30 Years:

      So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

      Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

      Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

      Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

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      @axtremus said in 30 Years:

      @jolly said in 30 Years:

      So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

      Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

      Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

      Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

      You actually believe that?

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        @axtremus said in 30 Years:

        @jolly said in 30 Years:

        So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

        Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

        Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

        Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

        You actually believe that?

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        @jolly said in 30 Years:

        @axtremus said in 30 Years:

        @jolly said in 30 Years:

        So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

        Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

        Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

        Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

        You actually believe that?

        Going by Pew Research‘s data, sure.
        If you have better data that might paint a different picture, please share. I am open to being convinced otherwise.

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          @jolly said in 30 Years:

          So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

          Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

          Mostly it’s the media with mixed audience that were more positive towards Biden than they were towards Trump.

          Sure, overall Biden gets fewer negative coverages across all media. That’s because Biden appears a lot more reasonable after the Trump sh!tshow. It’s easy to get higher marks after the nation lived for years under Trump’s very low bar.

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          @axtremus said in 30 Years:

          @jolly said in 30 Years:

          So, you're using stats to buttress your claim the Joe has not received more favorable coverage?

          Look at the breakdown. The right-leaning media were more negative towards Biden then the left-leaning media were towards Trump.

          There's negative and then there's negative. There's no such thing as a broad cultural group-think hatred, culminating in millions of people feeling like a car alarm is going off in their heads, because that geriatric puppet is president. But the hysterical negative coverage of Trump led to genuine terror and hatred of the man. What's a negative story about Biden? That his tax plan sucks?

          Education is extremely important.

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            That his vp will get a promotion

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              Funny, both articles are based on the same study.

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              @lufins-dad said in 30 Years:

              Funny, both articles are based on the same study.

              Statistics. LOL

              #1 President Trump received more votes than any previous president candidate

              #2 Presdient Trump lost the popular vote by one of the highest margins ever

              Both are true.

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                I don't know where you get your stats, but your popular vote numbers are awful.

                “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                • JollyJ Jolly

                  I don't know where you get your stats, but your popular vote numbers are awful.

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                  @jolly President Trump loss was in the top 20% in absolute numbers ever.

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                    https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035992/winning-margins-us-presidential-elections-since-1789/

                    Not quite 4.5%.

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • JollyJ Jolly

                      https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035992/winning-margins-us-presidential-elections-since-1789/

                      Not quite 4.5%.

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                      @jolly Sorry, I was not very clear.

                      If you look at all the presidential elections, and the absolute number of votes difference between the winner and loser (not the % difference), the loss of President Trump in 2020 to President Biden was in top 20%. The biggest margin was President Nixon in 1968.

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                      • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                        @jolly Sorry, I was not very clear.

                        If you look at all the presidential elections, and the absolute number of votes difference between the winner and loser (not the % difference), the loss of President Trump in 2020 to President Biden was in top 20%. The biggest margin was President Nixon in 1968.

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                        George K
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                        @taiwan_girl said in 30 Years:

                        absolute number of votes difference

                        Is that really a valid measure, considering the population growth?

                        For example the absolute numbers of Adams v Jefferson are small; is that a valid comparison to say, Bush v Kerry?

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • George KG George K

                          @taiwan_girl said in 30 Years:

                          absolute number of votes difference

                          Is that really a valid measure, considering the population growth?

                          For example the absolute numbers of Adams v Jefferson are small; is that a valid comparison to say, Bush v Kerry?

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                          @george-k said in 30 Years:

                          @taiwan_girl said in 30 Years:

                          absolute number of votes difference

                          Is that really a valid measure, considering the population growth?

                          For example the absolute numbers of Adams v Jefferson are small; is that a valid comparison to say, Bush v Kerry?

                          Exactly. That is my point. Statistics can be made to say anything.

                          My previous comment was this:
                          #1 President Trump received more votes than any previous president candidate

                          #2 Presdient Trump lost the popular vote by one of the highest margins ever

                          Both sides use the same data to say how popular/unpopular President Trump was. Both statements are true, but also misleading.

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