$13 Million isn't enough.
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wrote on 5 May 2021, 18:58 last edited by
"Lock them up."
https://news.yahoo.com/honeywell-fined-13-million-defense-153308932.html
The U.S. State Department announced it reached a $13 million settlement with American defense firm Honeywell over allegations it exported technical drawings of parts for the F-35 fighters and other weapons platforms to China and other foreign countries.
The Charlotte, North Carolina-based company faced 34 charges involving drawings it shared with China, Taiwan, Canada and Ireland, according to the Bureau of Political-Military Affairs’ charging document.
The State Department alleged some of the transmissions harmed national security, which Honeywell acknowledges with the caveat that the technology involved “is commercially available throughout the world. No detailed manufacturing or engineering expertise was shared.”
All together, the materials pertained to the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, the B-1B Lancer long-range strategic bomber, the F-22 fighter, the C-130 transport aircraft, the A-7H Corsair aircraft, the A-10 Warthog aircraft, the Apache Longbow helicopter, the M1A1 Abrams tank, the tactical Tomahawk missile; the F/A-18 Hornet fighter, and the F135, F414, T55 and CTS800 turboshaft engines.
The State Department said it would not debar Honeywell because it voluntarily disclosed its alleged violations in compliance with the Arms Export Control Act and the International Traffic in Arms Regulations. Also, $5 million of the fine is suspended so Honeywell can apply it to compliance costs and remedial measures.
“Honeywell also acknowledged the serious nature of the alleged violations, cooperated with the Department’s review, and instituted a number of compliance program improvements during the course of the Department’s review,” the State Department said in a statement. “For these reasons, the Department has determined that it is not appropriate to administratively debar Honeywell at this time.”
Between 2011 and 2015, Honeywell allegedly used a file-sharing platform to inappropriately transmit engineering prints showing layouts, dimensions and geometries for manufacturing castings and finished parts for multiple aircraft, military electronics and gas turbine engines. Its first disclosure of violations to the government came in 2015.
“The U.S. Government reviewed copies of the 71 drawings and determined that exports to and retransfers in the PRC [People’s Republic of China] of drawings for certain parts and components for the engine platforms for the F-35 Joint Strike Fighter, B-1B Lancer Long-Range Strategic Bomber, and the F-22 Fighter Aircraft harmed U.S. national security,” the charging document read.
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wrote on 5 May 2021, 19:46 last edited by
Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
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wrote on 5 May 2021, 20:24 last edited by
It’s a hand slap I suppose for volunteering their misstep. I hope there is a really good reason for an inconsequential fine.
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Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
wrote on 5 May 2021, 21:39 last edited by@mik said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
This stuff can be very hard to control where you’ve got highly complex systems, some of which may or may not be used in military applications. I’ve run into this a few times as I work as a non US citizen with US companies who have military branches. People don’t think to ask - I once caused an entire week of meetings to be moved out of a government building and into a local hotel because they forgot to ask whether I was a US citizen until I turned up at the front gate. Very embarrassing.
Honeywell has a large manufacturing presence globally, so the chance of information getting inappropriately disseminated accidentally is bound to be high.
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@mik said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
This stuff can be very hard to control where you’ve got highly complex systems, some of which may or may not be used in military applications. I’ve run into this a few times as I work as a non US citizen with US companies who have military branches. People don’t think to ask - I once caused an entire week of meetings to be moved out of a government building and into a local hotel because they forgot to ask whether I was a US citizen until I turned up at the front gate. Very embarrassing.
Honeywell has a large manufacturing presence globally, so the chance of information getting inappropriately disseminated accidentally is bound to be high.
wrote on 5 May 2021, 21:45 last edited by Horace 5 May 2021, 21:46@doctor-phibes said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
@mik said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
This stuff can be very hard to control where you’ve got highly complex systems, some of which may or may not be used in military applications. I’ve run into this a few times as I work as a non US citizen with US companies who have military branches. People don’t think to ask - I once caused an entire week of meetings to be moved out of a government building and into a local hotel because they forgot to ask whether I was a US citizen until I turned up at the front gate. Very embarrassing.
Honeywell has a large manufacturing presence globally, so the chance of information getting inappropriately disseminated accidentally is bound to be high.
Not being a US citizen would be mortifying. I can't imagine. I'm sorry for your pain.
My heart goes out to all posters here who aren't US citizens.
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@doctor-phibes said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
@mik said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
Why in God's name would Honeywell EVER allow ANY data on US military items to go to PRC? The technology may be commercially available but they don't need to know where we've used it.
$13M is not nearly enough.
This stuff can be very hard to control where you’ve got highly complex systems, some of which may or may not be used in military applications. I’ve run into this a few times as I work as a non US citizen with US companies who have military branches. People don’t think to ask - I once caused an entire week of meetings to be moved out of a government building and into a local hotel because they forgot to ask whether I was a US citizen until I turned up at the front gate. Very embarrassing.
Honeywell has a large manufacturing presence globally, so the chance of information getting inappropriately disseminated accidentally is bound to be high.
Not being a US citizen would be mortifying. I can't imagine. I'm sorry for your pain.
My heart goes out to all posters here who aren't US citizens.
wrote on 5 May 2021, 21:47 last edited by@horace said in $13 Million isn't enough.:
Not being a US citizen would be mortifying. I can't imagine. I'm sorry for your pain.
It's fucking awesome. Trying to explain it to you would be like trying to explain colours to a blind, dead guy.
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wrote on 6 May 2021, 12:30 last edited by
We'd be happy if you could just spell the word color correctly.