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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    #1

    Hot off the press:
    https://oversightboard.com/decision/FB-691QAMHJ/

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    • George KG Offline
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      George K
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      #2

      Arbitrary and ideological

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        Loki
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        #3

        Strawman argument just for clicks and giggles

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        • AxtremusA Axtremus

          Hot off the press:
          https://oversightboard.com/decision/FB-691QAMHJ/

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          Copper
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          #4

          @axtremus said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

          Hot off the press:
          https://oversightboard.com/decision/FB-691QAMHJ/

          I pasted that post into Word just to count pages

          41 pages

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          • JollyJ Offline
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            Jolly
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            #5

            Shred Facebook like a wet piece of paper.

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              Shred Facebook like a wet piece of paper.

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              George K
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              #6

              @jolly said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

              Shred Facebook like a wet piece of toilet paper.

              FIFY

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • George KG Offline
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                George K
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                #7

                It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                • CopperC Offline
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                  Copper
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                  #8

                  https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-ban-conservatives-facebook-break-up-big-tech

                  Trump ban: Republicans threaten to break up Facebook after Oversight Board decision

                  Conservatives blasted Facebook and its Oversight Board for upholding an indefinite ban on former President Trump on Wednesday.

                  "It is a sad day for America. It’s a sad day for Facebook because I can tell you, a number of members of Congress are now looking at: Do they break up Facebook, do they make sure that they don't have a monopoly? And I can tell you that it is two different standards, one for Donald Trump and one for a number of other people that are on their sites," Trump's former chief of staff Mark Meadows told "America's Newsroom."

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                  • HoraceH Offline
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                    Horace
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                    #9

                    It's like there's some kind of widespread cultural syndrome based on a deranged fear and hatred of Donald Trump. They should make a name for that.

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • George KG George K

                      It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                      Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

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                      Loki
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                      #10

                      @george-k said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                      It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                      Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                      The January 6 attack on the Capitol was really really unfortunate and Trump was in the neighborhood making unfortunate noises. I guess if he is advancing unproven conspiracy theories and insurrection he should be banned but I am thinking outloud about possibly legit reasons.

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                      • L Loki

                        @george-k said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                        It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                        Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                        The January 6 attack on the Capitol was really really unfortunate and Trump was in the neighborhood making unfortunate noises. I guess if he is advancing unproven conspiracy theories and insurrection he should be banned but I am thinking outloud about possibly legit reasons.

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                        #11

                        @loki said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                        @george-k said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                        It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                        Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                        The January 6 attack on the Capitol was really really unfortunate and Trump was in the neighborhood making unfortunate noises. I guess if he is advancing unproven conspiracy theories and insurrection he should be banned but I am thinking outloud about possibly legit reasons.

                        Well, what's interesting about the Capitol riot is that a lot of it is pure horseshit.

                        1. It was not an armed insurrection, as we were told.
                        2. Calling the riot an insurrection is stretching the word a mite. There was never an attempt to overthrow the government. There were some people who thought the government wasscewing around with the vote franchise.
                        3. Trump never called for any type of violent insurrection or riot. He never used words that had not been used by his opposition many, many times.
                        4. The only person killed because of the riot was an unarmed protester shot by Capitol Police. Look at the bright side, if she had been BLM, the ensuing crowd would have burned the Capitol to the ground.

                        “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                        Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                          Copper
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                          Yup

                          A few doofusses taking selfies

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                          • JollyJ Jolly

                            @loki said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                            @george-k said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                            It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                            Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                            The January 6 attack on the Capitol was really really unfortunate and Trump was in the neighborhood making unfortunate noises. I guess if he is advancing unproven conspiracy theories and insurrection he should be banned but I am thinking outloud about possibly legit reasons.

                            Well, what's interesting about the Capitol riot is that a lot of it is pure horseshit.

                            1. It was not an armed insurrection, as we were told.
                            2. Calling the riot an insurrection is stretching the word a mite. There was never an attempt to overthrow the government. There were some people who thought the government wasscewing around with the vote franchise.
                            3. Trump never called for any type of violent insurrection or riot. He never used words that had not been used by his opposition many, many times.
                            4. The only person killed because of the riot was an unarmed protester shot by Capitol Police. Look at the bright side, if she had been BLM, the ensuing crowd would have burned the Capitol to the ground.
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                            @jolly said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                            @loki said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                            @george-k said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                            It will be interesting, to say the least, if Trump decides to run in 2024.

                            Will FB actually prevent a presidential candidate from being on the platform?

                            The January 6 attack on the Capitol was really really unfortunate and Trump was in the neighborhood making unfortunate noises. I guess if he is advancing unproven conspiracy theories and insurrection he should be banned but I am thinking outloud about possibly legit reasons.

                            Well, what's interesting about the Capitol riot is that a lot of it is pure horseshit.

                            1. It was not an armed insurrection, as we were told.
                            2. Calling the riot an insurrection is stretching the word a mite. There was never an attempt to overthrow the government. There were some people who thought the government wasscewing around with the vote franchise.
                            3. Trump never called for any type of violent insurrection or riot. He never used words that had not been used by his opposition many, many times.
                            4. The only person killed because of the riot was an unarmed protester shot by Capitol Police. Look at the bright side, if she had been BLM, the ensuing crowd would have burned the Capitol to the ground.

                            Watching the Capitol invaded changed my point of view on a number of things. Anti covid vaxxers reinforced it. I’ve been around a long time, most things don’t move me much.

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                              George K
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #14

                              Sooth

                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                Copper
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                                "we're paying for the servers, your account is free"

                                Debatable

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                                  Mik
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                                  TNCR - ahead of its time.

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    Rainman
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                                    I don't understand how this stuff works, I don't have a Facebook account, no twitter, and I still don't have enough hours in a day.

                                    Couldn't Trump open fake accounts, say what he likes, and when he gets the John Trump facebook account closed for example, he then opens up yet another, like Delbert Ho. He could hire someone to do nothing but open up fake accounts on all social media sites day after day.

                                    Would it work, if he wanted to do something like this? AFAIK, it doesn't take a social security number to open an account. What am I missing?

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                                    • RainmanR Rainman

                                      I don't understand how this stuff works, I don't have a Facebook account, no twitter, and I still don't have enough hours in a day.

                                      Couldn't Trump open fake accounts, say what he likes, and when he gets the John Trump facebook account closed for example, he then opens up yet another, like Delbert Ho. He could hire someone to do nothing but open up fake accounts on all social media sites day after day.

                                      Would it work, if he wanted to do something like this? AFAIK, it doesn't take a social security number to open an account. What am I missing?

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                                      Axtremus
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                                      @rainman said in Facebook Oversight Board’s Trump Ban Decision:

                                      Couldn't Trump open fake accounts, say what he likes, and when he gets the John Trump facebook account closed for example, he then opens up yet another, like Delbert Ho. He could hire someone to do nothing but open up fake accounts on all social media sites day after day.

                                      Would it work, if he wanted to do something like this? AFAIK, it doesn't take a social security number to open an account. What am I missing?

                                      It won’t work if the objective is for Trump to get the message out to his followers because a large portion of the followers of Trump are a cult of personality, not a cult of idea or ideology. They follow Trump even when Trump contradicts himselves from one day to the next, and they ignore anyone who says the same things that Trump used to say as long as that someone is not Trump.

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                                        Rainman
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                                        Thanks, Ax!
                                        So, what you're saying is he could open fictitious accounts, but nobody could find him because he would have no following. Got it.

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                                          I think Ax is pretty much right. People follow Presdient Trump because of who he is more than what he says. His policies are not the "brand", he is the "brand".

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