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Why work?

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  • George KG Offline
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    George K
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    D3 works for a home healthcare staffing agency. They provide caregivers to people who are in need of temporary, or 24/7, nursing care. The pay is marginal for these people, and the benefits are, basically, nonexistent.

    She's having a real problem recruiting people these days because the people who used to be looking for this kind of work are finding that it's to their benefit to not work. If the government is providing unemployment coverage, childcare coverage, etc, why bother?

    She's noticed this as becoming a much more prevalent trend in the last year or so.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      However, it seems that Illinois has a "Refusal to Return to Work" law.

      Apparently, if someone comes to an employer and is offered a job and refuses the job, the employer can file a report with the state, disqualifying the applicant from unemployment benefits.

      https://www2.illinois.gov/ides/employers/Pages/Refusal-to-Return.aspx

      Refusal To Return to Work

      Please utilize this form to notify us of one or more claimants who have refused to return to work when offered by you or your representative. Include detailed explanation of the reasons that employee provided for refusing to return to work. This information will assist IDES in making our determination of benefit eligibility. Generally, an individual must show good cause for refusing a bona fide, suitable offer of work.

      In determining whether any work is suitable for an individual, consideration shall be given to the degree of risk involved to their: health, safety, and morals; physical fitness and prior training; experience and prior earnings; length of unemployment and prospects for securing local work in their customary occupation; and the distance of the available work from their residence. To read more about Refusal of Work see Section 603 of the Illinois Unemployment Insurance Act and the Unemployment Insurance Law Handbook on our website.

      Instructions for Submitting:
      Submit the completed form using our secure File Transfer Utility tool only. The recipient email address is DES.WorkRefusal@Illinois.gov. This is for notifying the agency of work refusals ONLY. Other documents, emails or requests will not be accepted. Include as many workers as you are aware on one submittal. If later you need to protest additional workers, please remove any that were previously reported.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

      Aqua LetiferA 1 Reply Last reply
      • LuFins DadL Offline
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        #3

        @george-k

        That’s common in a lot of states. It doesn’t ultimately help the employer find happy employees, though.

        The Brad

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        • George KG George K

          However, it seems that Illinois has a "Refusal to Return to Work" law.

          Apparently, if someone comes to an employer and is offered a job and refuses the job, the employer can file a report with the state, disqualifying the applicant from unemployment benefits.

          https://www2.illinois.gov/ides/employers/Pages/Refusal-to-Return.aspx

          Refusal To Return to Work

          Please utilize this form to notify us of one or more claimants who have refused to return to work when offered by you or your representative. Include detailed explanation of the reasons that employee provided for refusing to return to work. This information will assist IDES in making our determination of benefit eligibility. Generally, an individual must show good cause for refusing a bona fide, suitable offer of work.

          In determining whether any work is suitable for an individual, consideration shall be given to the degree of risk involved to their: health, safety, and morals; physical fitness and prior training; experience and prior earnings; length of unemployment and prospects for securing local work in their customary occupation; and the distance of the available work from their residence. To read more about Refusal of Work see Section 603 of the Illinois Unemployment Insurance Act and the Unemployment Insurance Law Handbook on our website.

          Instructions for Submitting:
          Submit the completed form using our secure File Transfer Utility tool only. The recipient email address is DES.WorkRefusal@Illinois.gov. This is for notifying the agency of work refusals ONLY. Other documents, emails or requests will not be accepted. Include as many workers as you are aware on one submittal. If later you need to protest additional workers, please remove any that were previously reported.

          Aqua LetiferA Offline
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          @george-k said in Why work?:

          However, it seems that Illinois has a "Refusal to Return to Work" law.
          Apparently, if someone comes to an employer and is offered a job and refuses the job, the employer can file a report with the state, disqualifying the applicant from unemployment benefits.

          Link to video

          Please love yourself.

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          • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

            @george-k said in Why work?:

            However, it seems that Illinois has a "Refusal to Return to Work" law.
            Apparently, if someone comes to an employer and is offered a job and refuses the job, the employer can file a report with the state, disqualifying the applicant from unemployment benefits.

            Link to video

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            @aqua-letifer said in Why work?:

            @george-k said in Why work?:

            However, it seems that Illinois has a "Refusal to Return to Work" law.
            Apparently, if someone comes to an employer and is offered a job and refuses the job, the employer can file a report with the state, disqualifying the applicant from unemployment benefits.

            Link to video

            lol

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            • George KG George K

              D3 works for a home healthcare staffing agency. They provide caregivers to people who are in need of temporary, or 24/7, nursing care. The pay is marginal for these people, and the benefits are, basically, nonexistent.

              She's having a real problem recruiting people these days because the people who used to be looking for this kind of work are finding that it's to their benefit to not work. If the government is providing unemployment coverage, childcare coverage, etc, why bother?

              She's noticed this as becoming a much more prevalent trend in the last year or so.

              CopperC Offline
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              Copper
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              @george-k said in Why work?:

              If the government is providing unemployment coverage, childcare coverage, etc, why bother?

              Yes, the government will give you everything

              But, what if you want a little luxury every now and then?

              Just steal it

              That's right just grab it and run

              But what about the police?

              Police? What is that?

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