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What psychedelics really do to your brain

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  • kluursK Offline
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    OTH, one of my piano teacher's sons killed himself to stop flashbacks that kept recurring. Needless to say, she felt quite differently.

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      I never knew anyone who had trouble with them that wasn't already a bit wonky. It is quite possible that if you already have mental issues it could exacerbate them. They all have a lot to do with brain chemistry.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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      • MikM Mik

        I never knew anyone who had trouble with them that wasn't already a bit wonky. It is quite possible that if you already have mental issues it could exacerbate them. They all have a lot to do with brain chemistry.

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        @mik That's what both Pollen and Harris would say - but that probably needs to be better clarified as psychedelics have been shown to be beneficial for treatment of a few mental health issues - e.g. PTSD, depression, anxiety.

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        • HoraceH Horace

          I would love to try them, but I've never been cool enough to have easy access.

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          @horace said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

          I would love to try them

          The only thing that keeps me from saying that is that I already score pretty high on trait openness, which means I have a hard enough time with daily life as it is. I don't mean that in a "too cool for you man" kind of way. I actually find it very, very difficult to have conversations about house hunting, or my and my wife's grocery list. They're an important part of living, but for me it's also banal to the point of being painful. Sometimes I really have to work at being able to talk about that stuff, and my wife knows I'm struggling with it and ultimately of course just the struggling makes me look like a huge asshole. These aren't fun problems to have. I constantly have to work at it.

          If psychedelics were to put me even more out there, and by an order of magnitude if the literature is to be believed, I dunno how much of daily life I could still juggle. Which would suck.

          Please love yourself.

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            For me, I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • MikM Mik

              For me, I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

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              @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

              Forr egg me. I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

              I was just partying. lol

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                I've been super curious about this - just because of the rave reviews.

                I feel very lucky to be in a good headspace these past few years - but doesn't seem like much downside? I dunno.

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                  Andy and I were tripping at the college dorms one night and he remembered he had a term paper due in the morning.

                  We spent sometime coming up with this simple phrase, "double wrap everything in heavy duty plastic". Then we just lost it and laughed our assess off for probably a half hour.

                  What a silly drug. Fun! but silly.

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                  • markM mark

                    @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                    Forr egg me. I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

                    I was just partying. lol

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                    @mark said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                    @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                    Forr egg me. I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

                    I was just partying. lol

                    me too. I didn't notice these things until long after.

                    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    • MikM Mik

                      For me, I think it made it easier to dismiss those things in my own life. Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

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                      @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                      Not recommending it, because you are in a very different space than I was at the time.

                      You say that, but then you also say this:

                      I have always felt people who have done this find it easier to remove themselves from their deliberations on a given topic.

                      At the risk of being promoted from Captain to Admiral Obvious, I think that I might benefit from something like that.

                      Please love yourself.

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                        #20

                        I think these things are better for the younger and more innocent. Too much barefooting around in the head is not good for adults. But I suspect a light dose of mushrooms would not hurt you. I'd try that before I went for some mystical experience. I've been pretty far out there hallucinogenically but cannot say I had something like that. I always knew where I was, even if I couldn't see it quite clearly.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          I think these things are better for the younger and more innocent. Too much barefooting around in the head is not good for adults. But I suspect a light dose of mushrooms would not hurt you. I'd try that before I went for some mystical experience. I've been pretty far out there hallucinogenically but cannot say I had something like that. I always knew where I was, even if I couldn't see it quite clearly.

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                          @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                          I think these things are better for the younger and more innocent. Too much barefooting around in the head is not good for adults. But I suspect a light dose of mushrooms would not hurt you. I'd try that before I went for some mystical experience. I've been pretty far out there hallucinogenically but cannot say I had something like that. I always knew where I was, even if I couldn't see it quite clearly.

                          This.

                          Even when your head melts into the tile wall as lean your forehead against it, while you're taking a piss at the local bar across the two lane 55 mph road from the drive through theater where you and your buddies are tripping your brains out at a triple feature on a Friday night, and you decide to play frogger because the bathroom in the bar , across the street, is closer than the bathroom at the drive-in, you know where you are.

                          When the light trails from the streetlights seem to shoot off into infinity. You still know where you are.

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                            I was only joking

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                              That's Gene Simmons when he wanted to be Ozzy Osbourne. Quite appropriate to this discussion. 😆

                              “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                That, my American friend, is Neil.

                                And you two sound just like him, man.

                                I was only joking

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                                  Neil?

                                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                    He's a Young One. Least ways, he was about 40 years ago.

                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Ones_(TV_series)

                                    I was only joking

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                                    • MikM Mik

                                      Better for the young and innocent who kind of live in Disneyland anyway. I would not repeat the experiences today with an adult's awareness.

                                      Well, maybe 'shrooms. 😳

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                                      @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                                      Better for the young and innocent who kind of live in Disneyland anyway.

                                      Funny the first time I had acid was at Epcot.

                                      Only non-witches get due process.

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                                      • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                                        @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                                        Better for the young and innocent who kind of live in Disneyland anyway.

                                        Funny the first time I had acid was at Epcot.

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                                        @jon-nyc said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                                        @mik said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                                        Better for the young and innocent who kind of live in Disneyland anyway.

                                        Funny the first time I had acid was at Epcot.

                                        🤣 🚀

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                                        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                                          He's a Young One. Least ways, he was about 40 years ago.

                                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Young_Ones_(TV_series)

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                                          @doctor-phibes said in What psychedelics really do to your brain:

                                          He's a Young One.

                                          Neil Young, then. Makes sense.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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