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  • JollyJ Offline
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    Jolly
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    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/usa-today-let-stacey-abrams-stealth-edit-op-ed-to-downplay-support-for-georgia-boycotts/ar-BB1g6Y3O?ocid=msedgntp

    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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    • KlausK Offline
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      I was hoping that this thread would be about Emacs vs vi.

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      • CopperC Offline
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        Copper
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        #3

        vi

        Emacs can be OK, but it is a crutch

        Just learn to use vi and get on with it

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        • KlausK Offline
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          I needed years to learn that one can quit vi with Escape-q-!-Return. Before that, I could only get out of the editor by switching to a new terminal and killing the process.

          I don't hate Emacs just as much, but I still hate it. It always gives me a million options and menu entries and only a tiny fraction of them are applicable in the particular situation.

          These days, I use Atom. That's a pretty decent editor that satisfies most of my needs.

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          • HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #5

            I use the Visual Studio IDE.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • George KG Offline
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              George K
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              #6

              This is the "Thread Derail" winner of 2021 so far.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                I use the Visual Studio IDE.

                CopperC Offline
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                Copper
                wrote on last edited by
                #7

                To be honest it has been years since I used vi, these days it is:

                Visual Studio IDE

                And Eclipse IDE for JAVA developers for Android, I never got around to moving to Android Studio

                And XCode for iOS

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                • KlausK Offline
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                  Klaus
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                  #8

                  But VisualStudio is tailored to a specific set of programming languages. What do you use for the rest? I pray to God it isn’t Notepad.

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                  • KlausK Offline
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                    Klaus
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                    #9

                    Does anyone remember Edlin?

                    alt text

                    Old times that I don't miss at all. In hindsight, I don't understand the success of MS-DOS. Unix was so much better in every way, and there were several variants available that ran on X86 architectures in the early 1980s (including one by Microsoft - Xenix). Was it the resource usage that made the decisive difference? Pricing? Or "political" reasons?

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                    • CopperC Offline
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                      MS-DOS was written for the IBM PC

                      IBM ruled the world

                      As soon as IBM announced the PC, nothing else mattered

                      That was 1981, only 40 years ago, the world has changed since then

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