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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    Axtremus
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    ... even lower number than for FY 2020:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/biden-refugees-trump-policies-intact/2021/04/11/d3cd4c36-9aef-11eb-9d05-ae06f4529ece_story.html

    If existing policy continues, only 4150 refugees would be admitted into the USA in FY 2021, less than half the number of refugees admitted in FY 2020 under Trump.

    Presumably a recent, sizable batch of refugees were blocked from admission at the last minute because Biden failed to sign some pretty routine paperwork for such transfers. So far I have yet to read any quip in the media about Biden being too senile to sign the paperwork.

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    • JollyJ Offline
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      Why should we take in refugees?

      We're already emptying out Central America...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • JollyJ Jolly

        Why should we take in refugees?

        We're already emptying out Central America...

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        Aqua Letifer
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        @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

        Why should we take in refugees?

        Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

        Please love yourself.

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        • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

          @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

          Why should we take in refugees?

          Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

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          Loki
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          #4

          @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

          @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

          Why should we take in refugees?

          Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

          Does Kamala has oversight over the refugees too? Maybe the delay is just about new procedure formulation.

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            @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

            @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

            Why should we take in refugees?

            Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

            Does Kamala has oversight over the refugees too? Maybe the delay is just about new procedure formulation.

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            Jolly
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            @loki said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

            @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

            @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

            Why should we take in refugees?

            Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

            Does Kamala has oversight over the refugees too? Maybe the delay is just about new procedure formulation.

            She'll circle back to you on that one...

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • Aqua LetiferA Aqua Letifer

              @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

              Why should we take in refugees?

              Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

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              taiwan_girl
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              @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

              @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

              Why should we take in refugees?

              Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

              Exactly. The only reason the population of the US is not in a downward circle is because of immigrants.

              Look at Japan and Italy as examples of countries that are in a downward circle of population.

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              • CopperC Offline
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                Copper
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                OK, so we don't really want illegals or refugees.

                We want good investments.

                Good idea

                Let's put a dollar value on each of these people and then simply sort them.

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                • taiwan_girlT taiwan_girl

                  @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                  @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                  Why should we take in refugees?

                  Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

                  Exactly. The only reason the population of the US is not in a downward circle is because of immigrants.

                  Look at Japan and Italy as examples of countries that are in a downward circle of population.

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                  Rainman
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                  @taiwan_girl said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                  @aqua-letifer said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                  @jolly said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                  Why should we take in refugees?

                  Because unlike some illegal immigrants, refugees contribute far more to the economy than they use in public services. They're a better investment, any way you'd want to look at it.

                  Exactly. The only reason the population of the US is not in a downward circle is because of immigrants.

                  Look at Japan and Italy as examples of countries that are in a downward circle of population.

                  Well, I have heard that Japan does not like auslanders i.e., foreigners.
                  I've heard that Italy likes everyone that likes Italy, for the most part. I mean, who doesn't like Italian food (as opposed to those disgusting raw fish sushi stuff)?

                  When my parents immigrated to this country, they had to have a job lined up first, before being considered. There were other hurdles as well I won't get in to. Point is, that scenario for immigration was completely different than what is taking place now at our southern border.

                  Too wide a brush?

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                    Kincaid
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                    My understanding is that Biden reneged on his campaign promise to increase the allowed number of refugees and so is keeping the cap set by Trump.

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                    • CopperC Copper

                      OK, so we don't really want illegals or refugees.

                      We want good investments.

                      Good idea

                      Let's put a dollar value on each of these people and then simply sort them.

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                      xenon
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                      @copper said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                      OK, so we don't really want illegals or refugees.

                      We want good investments.

                      Good idea

                      Let's put a dollar value on each of these people and then simply sort them.

                      Do you want educated Europeans with specific political values? Or do you want “hungry” hustlers from under-developed countries?

                      It’s not a simple dichotomy like that - but what makes a good immigrant is not cut/dry.

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                        xenon
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                        #11

                        I think I’ve brought this example up before - but Canada radically changed its immigration policy.

                        They weighted it more towards skills and education.

                        I’ve always been in favor of this in principle. But some results were unexpected.

                        The new policy selected for higher class individuals- I noticed a big shift in the Indian population.

                        These new peoples’ mindset often isn’t compatible with working you way up from the bottom (they’ve never been anywhere near the bottom in their old country).

                        I noticed poorer assimilation. Maybe they’ll get there. These were mostly colleged age young people.

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                        • MikM Offline
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                          Mik
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                          No matter.... he's changed it now, walking it back and saying he's going to increase it.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                          • MikM Mik

                            No matter.... he's changed it now, walking it back and saying he's going to increase it.

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                            Kincaid
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                            @mik said in Record Low Refugee Intake Forecasted for FY 2021 ...:

                            No matter.... he's changed it now, walking it back and saying he's going to increase it.

                            Good thing he is a man of high principles.

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