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  • LuFins DadL Offline
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    LuFins Dad
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    #1

    https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

    I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

    The Brad

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    • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

      https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

      I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

      JollyJ Offline
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      Jolly
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      @lufins-dad said in Seventeen:

      https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

      I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

      Alvin Kamara hates it.

      He said he's beat up enough, as is...

      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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      • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

        https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

        I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

        Catseye3C Offline
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        Catseye3
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        @lufins-dad said in Seventeen:

        I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

        Sorry? What do you mean here, please?

        My first thought was like the one from the guy Jolly quoted. These men aren't bashed and crashed enough with 16 games? I know fans are used to seeing them get tossed around, but the few video clips I've seen have me flinching. They go down so HARD! (And then bounce right back up!)

        To "grow our game around the world", according to Goodell, that prick, is that important?

        I wonder how the players feel generally? Mo' money is good, but worth the extra punishment?

        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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          Horace
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          How much does a 5% increase in revenue mean to all the parties involved?

          For the players, they already sign up for up to a 25% increase in beatings if their team happens to be successful. (What with playoff games.) Without an attendant 25% increase in compensation.

          "Faces of the league" like Tom Brady, with legacies on the line, GOAT status on the line, they probably weigh things a lot differently than the Alvin Kamaras of the world. Who himself weighs things differently than a practice squad player hoping to latch on to the team. Then owners view things differently depending on whether they think they'll make the playoffs perennially or not.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • MikM Away
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            Mik
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            All about the benjamins. While I love football, it seems this is just a way to make more money in a time when football is being looked at real hard for the damage to the players.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

              I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

              CopperC Offline
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              @lufins-dad said in Seventeen:

              https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-owners-approve-enhanced-schedule-with-17-regular-season-games-per-team

              I don’t like it. It screws with the history of the league.

              They probably like that - they can set all new records.

              Remember how much the league loved Hank Aaron and Cal Ripken.

              They learned their lesson from Roger Maris.

              Wouldn't they love a debate going on year after year about whether a 17-0 team is better than a 16-0 team?

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                Loki
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                If it’s one less fake preseason game I don’t see it as very disruptive at all except for the records. I think I good answer to how keeping track of records and who is the best vs history is the one thing to overcome.

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                • JollyJ Offline
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                  The reason the Player's Association voted for the expansion had to do with the rank and file of the league. Very few players are Tom Brady or Drew Brees...Guys that play for twenty years at top dollar. Very few guys even make ten years in the league. The average career is three years for a player making an active roster and playing in a regular season game.

                  If a player can make three years, he will collect an NFL pension at 55. I've seen various numbers, but the average guy ain't gonna get rich off of his pension.

                  If a player can make four years, he is eligible to buy an annuity provided by the league.

                  AFAIK, all players are eligible to participate in the NFL 401k.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                  • JollyJ Jolly

                    The reason the Player's Association voted for the expansion had to do with the rank and file of the league. Very few players are Tom Brady or Drew Brees...Guys that play for twenty years at top dollar. Very few guys even make ten years in the league. The average career is three years for a player making an active roster and playing in a regular season game.

                    If a player can make three years, he will collect an NFL pension at 55. I've seen various numbers, but the average guy ain't gonna get rich off of his pension.

                    If a player can make four years, he is eligible to buy an annuity provided by the league.

                    AFAIK, all players are eligible to participate in the NFL 401k.

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                    George K
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                    @jolly said in Seventeen:

                    Guys that play for twenty years at top dollar.

                    I really don't follow this at all, as you know. However, this comment struck me as interesting, in light of the conversation I had with George Blanda.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • George KG George K

                      @jolly said in Seventeen:

                      Guys that play for twenty years at top dollar.

                      I really don't follow this at all, as you know. However, this comment struck me as interesting, in light of the conversation I had with George Blanda.

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                      @george-k said in Seventeen:

                      @jolly said in Seventeen:

                      Guys that play for twenty years at top dollar.

                      I really don't follow this at all, as you know. However, this comment struck me as interesting, in light of the conversation I had with George Blanda.

                      Look, I know a guy...

                      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Robinson_(safety)

                      Players today...Average players...Make more in one game, than he made in a year. Because he retired before the retirement rule change in 1993, his NFL pension ain't squat.

                      BTW, his brother Tommy was an ophthalmologist...But he may actually have been the better athlete...

                      “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                      Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                        Catseye3
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                        #11

                        Here's a timeline.

                        March 15, 2020: Players vote 1,019 to 959 to approve a new Collective Bargaining Agreement. As part of that agreement, the 1,019 yea votes approved the addition of one regular-season game per team.*

                        Feb. 7, 2021: The NFL finishes its 267-game season, missing no games. Sports Business Journal reports the league’s revenue for the season was down $4 billion, or 25 percent, from 2019. Players receive full salaries, unlike players in basketball and baseball.

                        March 1, 2021: I [Peter King] report it’s “highly likely” that the NFL will institute the 17th game for the 2021 season, with the Super Bowl likely to be pushed back one week to Feb. 13, and with the 17th game duplicating the cross-conference matchups from the 2019 season.

                        Sunday: Adam Schefter tweets the NFL “is expected to” approve the 17th game as virtual league meetings this week.

                        The move was made 54 weeks ago. It’s not big news now.
                        ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^

                        *I would not call that overwhelming enthusiasm.

                        https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/03/29/urban-meyer-jaguars-trevor-lawrence-nfl-draft-trades-fmia-peter-king/

                        Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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