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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:27 last edited by@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
I never judged what happened based on a name or a skin color, maybe I am in fact more woke. Wow.
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
I never judged what happened based on a name or a skin color, maybe I am in fact more woke. Wow.
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:41 last edited by@loki said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
I never judged what happened based on a name or a skin color, maybe I am in fact more woke. Wow.
No, if you're Woke, you know some people, genders and skin colors are inherently bad.
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:50 last edited by Doctor Phibes@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
It fits a different narrative pretty well. "Any time a muslim kills a load of rando's, he's a terrorist. Any time a white guy does it, he's suffering from mental illness."
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@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
It fits a different narrative pretty well. "Any time a muslim kills a load of rando's, he's a terrorist. Any time a white guy does it, he's suffering from mental illness."
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:52 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Boulder Shooting:
@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
It fits a different narrative pretty well. "Any time a muslim kills people, he's a terrorist. Any time a white guy does it, he's suffering from mental illness."
Nah, I think you're behind the times. Things have changed. Terrorists are now domestic white supremacists. Muslims are a group of people that are mostly peace-loving and oppressed by Zionists....
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:53 last edited by Doctor Phibes
It all depends on which particular bunch of bigots you listen to.
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@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:51 last edited by@jolly said in Boulder Shooting:
@renauda said in Boulder Shooting:
"Police have not confirmed a motive. The suspect faces 10 counts of murder.....
The suspect has been named as 21-year-old Ahmad Alissa."Judging by the suspect's name the motive was probably based on religious fanaticism or some superstition derived from religious belief or he is a nutter who shouldn't have had access to firearms in the first place. Maybe all of the above.
Well, if they are Muslim, it doesn't fit the narrative...
But then again, maybe none of the above.
What narrative might that be?
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So it’s been super quiet about a narrative from the news. I was wondering why.
It will be an interesting day now.
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 21:49 last edited by@loki said in Boulder Shooting:
So it’s been super quiet about a narrative from the news. I was wondering why.
He will join Bernie-Bro James Hodgkinson in the memory hole.
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 21:50 last edited by
Also, "Issa" is another name for "Jesus."
So either he was a crazed Muslim, or a knuckle-dragging Christian.
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 22:49 last edited by
Can't use apostrophes correctly. Also murders way too much.
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 22:50 last edited by
Read two articles this afternoon that suggest racism against him made him an angry and paranoid person. So I can breathe safely again knowing white supremacy domestic terrorism with a twist is the cause.
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Read two articles this afternoon that suggest racism against him made him an angry and paranoid person. So I can breathe safely again knowing white supremacy domestic terrorism with a twist is the cause.
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 22:54 last edited by Horace@loki said in Boulder Shooting:
Read two articles this afternoon that suggest racism against him made him an angry and paranoid person. So I can breathe safely again knowing white supremacy domestic terrorism with a twist is the cause.
Also Trump. This guy clearly was infuriated by that orange demon the racists elected. This sort of retribution, while regrettable, is also completely inevitable if we're going to elect someone like Trump. This blood is on the hands of Trump supporters.
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 23:37 last edited by
Seen on Twitter:
"The "Jesus Christ was a person of color lol" crowd suddenly very big on people from Syria being white."
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wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 23:49 last edited by
If there's a shooting and the shooter is white:
Side 1: "Yes!"
Side 2: groanIf the shooter is not white, switch reactions.
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If there's a shooting and the shooter is white:
Side 1: "Yes!"
Side 2: groanIf the shooter is not white, switch reactions.
wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 23:54 last edited by@xenon said in Boulder Shooting:
If there's a shooting and the shooter is white:
Side 1: "Yes!"
Side 2: groanIf the shooter is not white, switch reactions.
I dunno. Side 1 is throwing parties, er, rallies, over factually false, totally fabricated motivations of the murderer. Side 2 has factual motivations on their side (presumably, in this case,) but still doesn't throw parties to celebrate the confirmation of their biases.
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wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 00:01 last edited by
Call me cruel, but I can't really process the human tragedy in these sort of events anymore.
It's too frequent. It blends into life's many unfairnesses that kill people everyday (child starvation, cancer, car crashes, etc.)
You aggregate those up, and they're big numbers every day. But people don't stop and think about the daily tragedy since they're commonplace and unavoidable.
I think for many - the narrative value of these things are much more real for their life than the sadness.
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Call me cruel, but I can't really process the human tragedy in these sort of events anymore.
It's too frequent. It blends into life's many unfairnesses that kill people everyday (child starvation, cancer, car crashes, etc.)
You aggregate those up, and they're big numbers every day. But people don't stop and think about the daily tragedy since they're commonplace and unavoidable.
I think for many - the narrative value of these things are much more real for their life than the sadness.
wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 00:06 last edited by@xenon said in Boulder Shooting:
I think for many - the narrative value of these things are much more real for their life than the sadness.
I am entirely convinced of that.
But I don't really think the right is as bloodthirsty in their desire to see Islamic violence as the left is in its desire to see "white supremacy" violence.
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Call me cruel, but I can't really process the human tragedy in these sort of events anymore.
It's too frequent. It blends into life's many unfairnesses that kill people everyday (child starvation, cancer, car crashes, etc.)
You aggregate those up, and they're big numbers every day. But people don't stop and think about the daily tragedy since they're commonplace and unavoidable.
I think for many - the narrative value of these things are much more real for their life than the sadness.
wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 00:34 last edited by@xenon said in Boulder Shooting:
Call me cruel, but I can't really process the human tragedy in these sort of events anymore.
It's too frequent. It blends into life's many unfairnesses that kill people everyday (child starvation, cancer, car crashes, etc.)
You aggregate those up, and they're big numbers every day. But people don't stop and think about the daily tragedy since they're commonplace and unavoidable.
I think for many - the narrative value of these things are much more real for their life than the sadness.
I made a call to Boulder to check in on someone. It was real to me and these tragedies are awful.
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wrote on 24 Mar 2021, 17:23 last edited by
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wrote on 25 Mar 2021, 16:54 last edited by
Frank Bruni: "Eight dead in Atlanta. Ten dead in Boulder, Colo.
"Is this what returning to life as usual in America means?
"The Democratic majority leader of the Colorado State Senate, Stephen Fenberg, suggested as much, and I’m not taking issue with it or him. Quite the opposite. He’s gut-wrenchingly right, and his words, like every one of those 18 victims, should give us enormous pause and fill us with even more shame."
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^He makes a good point, except for the last bit. I don't feel personal shame about it. I don't feel shame when some brainshriek posts an opinion about Trump's dickishness and then goes, "So I think I'll go kill a bunch of people".
I'm not sure what I should feel instead. Outrage has become humdrum, sussing the underpinnings is too hard . . . I don't know. But shame isn't the way. I got enough of that shit in the years 2017 to 2021. It doesn't feel good, and it is nonproductive.
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Frank Bruni: "Eight dead in Atlanta. Ten dead in Boulder, Colo.
"Is this what returning to life as usual in America means?
"The Democratic majority leader of the Colorado State Senate, Stephen Fenberg, suggested as much, and I’m not taking issue with it or him. Quite the opposite. He’s gut-wrenchingly right, and his words, like every one of those 18 victims, should give us enormous pause and fill us with even more shame."
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^He makes a good point, except for the last bit. I don't feel personal shame about it. I don't feel shame when some brainshriek posts an opinion about Trump's dickishness and then goes, "So I think I'll go kill a bunch of people".
I'm not sure what I should feel instead. Outrage has become humdrum, sussing the underpinnings is too hard . . . I don't know. But shame isn't the way. I got enough of that shit in the years 2017 to 2021. It doesn't feel good, and it is nonproductive.
wrote on 25 Mar 2021, 17:49 last edited by Jolly@catseye3 said in Boulder Shooting:
Frank Bruni: "Eight dead in Atlanta. Ten dead in Boulder, Colo.
"Is this what returning to life as usual in America means?
"The Democratic majority leader of the Colorado State Senate, Stephen Fenberg, suggested as much, and I’m not taking issue with it or him. Quite the opposite. He’s gut-wrenchingly right, and his words, like every one of those 18 victims, should give us enormous pause and fill us with even more shame."
^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^He makes a good point, except for the last bit. I don't feel personal shame about it. I don't feel shame when some brainshriek posts an opinion about Trump's dickishness and then goes, "So I think I'll go kill a bunch of people".
I'm not sure what I should feel instead. Outrage has become humdrum, sussing the underpinnings is too hard . . . I don't know. But shame isn't the way. I got enough of that shit in the years 2017 to 2021. It doesn't feel good, and it is nonproductive.
Rats in a cage and non-conforming rats, at that. Mentally unstable rats.
Did you know there are more people killed by knives in America every year, than by rifles? Black rifles make good news, though.
There are things we can do to address the problem, but nobody wants to work on the root causes.
