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Asian hate? Seriously?

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    LuFins Dad
    wrote on 22 Mar 2021, 23:56 last edited by
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    @Aqua-Letifer It’s not about points, liberal media, or calling it a flu. It is about recognizing that it was generally identified as such with no malice and the phrase was adopted widely. It wasn’t until later that people recognized there were political points to be won that it became an issue.

    The Brad

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    • L LuFins Dad
      22 Mar 2021, 23:56

      @Aqua-Letifer It’s not about points, liberal media, or calling it a flu. It is about recognizing that it was generally identified as such with no malice and the phrase was adopted widely. It wasn’t until later that people recognized there were political points to be won that it became an issue.

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 00:06 last edited by
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      @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

      @Aqua-Letifer It’s not about points, liberal media, or calling it a flu. It is about recognizing that it was generally identified as such with no malice and the phrase was adopted widely. It wasn’t until later that people recognized there were political points to be won that it became an issue.

      Okay, fine. But you can't play games like use it as a dig, and then hide behind the explanation you just gave to get away with it. That shit goes on, too.

      Basically I will continue to reserve judgment on those who call it a "Chinese flu" and use my own personal discretion when deciding whether or not they're an asshole. More often than not, that's the conclusion I continue to draw. Not because #stopasianhate but because they're being an asshole.

      Please love yourself.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 00:29 last edited by
        #51

        I have no doubt that many are purposely trying to be assholes. I just think that a lot of those are not trying to be rude towards Asians, I think they are trying to tweak those that are annoyed by the phrase.

        The Brad

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          Horace
          wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 17:49 last edited by
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          Just saw a post on NextDoor that there will be a "Stop Asian Hate" rally in my neighborhood on Thursday. Never a better excuse to have a party than a bunch of people being murdered. I didn't have the heart to post that the rally should probably be "Stop Massage Parlor Prostitution Hate".

          Education is extremely important.

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            Mik
            wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:12 last edited by
            #53

            Yeah, we had one of those here Sunday.

            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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            • A Aqua Letifer
              22 Mar 2021, 20:50

              @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

              Wow, Ax, project much?

              He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

              My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

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              Jolly
              wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:15 last edited by
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              @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

              @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

              Wow, Ax, project much?

              He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

              My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

              Well, I usually call it the Chinese Virus, but since you prefer Wuhan...

              “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

              Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                Mik
                wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:16 last edited by
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                It's not against Asians. It's against the CCP who did everything they could possibly do to assure this to be a global pandemic.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                  23 Mar 2021, 18:15

                  @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                  @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                  Wow, Ax, project much?

                  He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

                  My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

                  Well, I usually call it the Chinese Virus, but since you prefer Wuhan...

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                  Aqua Letifer
                  wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:18 last edited by
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                  @jolly said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                  @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                  @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                  Wow, Ax, project much?

                  He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

                  My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

                  Well, I usually call it the Chinese Virus, but since you prefer Wuhan...

                  See? Outlier. I know for a fact you don't think the virus is a conspiracy theory. I'm also pretty sure you decide to make a distinction between China the government and China the people who live there. So call it whatever, I don't get the impression you're trying to be an asshole about it.

                  Please love yourself.

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                  • M Mik
                    23 Mar 2021, 18:16

                    It's not against Asians. It's against the CCP who did everything they could possibly do to assure this to be a global pandemic.

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                    Jolly
                    wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:20 last edited by
                    #57

                    @mik said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                    It's not against Asians. It's against the CCP who did everything they could possibly do to assure this to be a global pandemic.

                    A. aegypti which causes Dengue fever, probably triggers Egyptians. Wonder whatother organisms or diseases need their names changed?

                    “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                    Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    • A Aqua Letifer
                      23 Mar 2021, 18:18

                      @jolly said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      Wow, Ax, project much?

                      He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

                      My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

                      Well, I usually call it the Chinese Virus, but since you prefer Wuhan...

                      See? Outlier. I know for a fact you don't think the virus is a conspiracy theory. I'm also pretty sure you decide to make a distinction between China the government and China the people who live there. So call it whatever, I don't get the impression you're trying to be an asshole about it.

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                      LuFins Dad
                      wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 18:21 last edited by
                      #58

                      @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      @jolly said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      @aqua-letifer said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      @lufins-dad said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                      Wow, Ax, project much?

                      He's not wrong. When I hear "Coronavirus," it's almost always coming from someone who is talking about, or wants to discuss, SARS-CoV-2. When I hear "Wuhan Flu," it's always and I literally mean always from an asshole who (1) blames China for the spread of a (2) trivial virus that no one should pay attention to because it's just like the flu and the lamestream media are blowing it out of proportion because they hate Donald Trump.

                      My own personal experience is admittedly a small sample size, but so far it's always been the case. I'll allow that there are almost certainly outliers.

                      Well, I usually call it the Chinese Virus, but since you prefer Wuhan...

                      See? Outlier. I know for a fact you don't think the virus is a conspiracy theory. I'm also pretty sure you decide to make a distinction between China the government and China the people who live there. So call it whatever, I don't get the impression you're trying to be an asshole about it.

                      Oh,I think he’s trying to be a bit of an asshole with it, just not towards the good people of China. More likely his victims are WWW (Whiny, Whimpy, White).

                      The Brad

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                        Horace
                        wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 03:18 last edited by
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                        Some troll posted on social media that in the Bay Area, kids are taking up a “slap an Asian” challenge, to stalk public transportation and slap an Asian you see. This social media trolling made its way to my wife and presumably many of her online acquaintances, all part of certain WeChat groups. They don’t generally have the requisite cynicism about the woke pop culture messaging, so take such rumors at face value. So now it’s my job to convince my wife that it is actually safe for her to leave the house. Thanks, the left! Bang up job with the messaging! Making the culture more stable and functional one irrationally paranoid minority at a time.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                          Mik
                          wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 03:35 last edited by
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                          Great. Make everyone think now that America is not safe for Asians.

                          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            Jolly
                            wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 12:48 last edited by
                            #61

                            An armed society is a polite society.

                            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                              Copper
                              wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 13:47 last edited by
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                              I can imagine the left embracing the “slap an Asian” challenge.

                              It is right on message.

                              I doubt there is much of a hate Asian movement in this country, but this could help to get that going.

                              And Asia covers a lot of ground. The term Asian as it appears to be used now just doesn't fit my idea of Asian. I think Bosphorus to Kamchatka.

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                                Loki
                                wrote on 28 Mar 2021, 19:08 last edited by
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                                It’s an adaptation of knockout game that’s been around a long time. I would think those that play slap an Asian would play slap at anything.

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                                  Horace
                                  wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:11 last edited by Horace
                                  #64

                                  Got this from Uber today:

                                  Uber
                                  Stop Asian Hate
                                  The hate and violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders is heartbreaking. We stand with our Asian-American friends, community, and team to strongly denounce these frightening and painful acts of hate.

                                  Asian people have the right to move without fear. That’s why we’re reaffirming our stance as an anti-racist company with the following commitments:

                                  Together with Stop AAPI Hate, we’re working to improve reporting and responding to anti-Asian hate and harassment. If you witness or experience an incident on or off our platform, go to www.StopAAPIHate.org, where you can also find valuable safety tips.
                                  We’re also sharing resources from Hollaback to provide bystander intervention education to everyone who rides, eats, and works with Uber.

                                  And, we’re partnering with local AAPI organizations throughout the country to help support their important work across the community.

                                  This is just the beginning. We’ll continue to work locally with the AAPI community to help make our cities safer.
                                  As a reminder, whether you drive, deliver, ride, or order, everyone who uses Uber must abide by our Community Guidelines.

                                  Racism has no place on our platform. If you tolerate racism, delete Uber.

                                  #StopAsianHate

                                  As many of you know, I'm Chinese by marriage. As none of you know, I was pulled over two days ago, in Nevada, by a white male police officer. Because I'm Chinese.

                                  I know that this forum is mostly populated by straight white males, so I'm not expecting most of you to be able to relate to my life experiences. But I do ask that you try to imagine what was going through my mind during this traffic stop. Not only am I Chinese, I also identify as bisexual. What are my chances of surviving this encounter with a white male police officer?

                                  I now know what the young men who stormed the beach at Normandy felt. I now know what it was to hear the bullets fly by in the jungles of Viet Nam. I survived. Many of my spiritual predecessors did not.

                                  You should have heard this cop. "I pulled you over for doing 91 in a 55 construction zone, but since the zone just started a bit back, I'll delete that from the ticket and give you this 10 mph over the limit violation, as if the limit were 80."

                                  That's the face of hatred, folks. The banality of hatred. He dares threaten my life as a Chinese bisexual and then attempts to mitigate the aggression by "taking it easy on me" with the citation?

                                  I survived. Not everybody does. And most of you will never, ever, understand.

                                  My healing process has only just begun.

                                  Education is extremely important.

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                                    30 Mar 2021, 21:11

                                    Got this from Uber today:

                                    Uber
                                    Stop Asian Hate
                                    The hate and violence against Asian Americans and Pacific Islanders is heartbreaking. We stand with our Asian-American friends, community, and team to strongly denounce these frightening and painful acts of hate.

                                    Asian people have the right to move without fear. That’s why we’re reaffirming our stance as an anti-racist company with the following commitments:

                                    Together with Stop AAPI Hate, we’re working to improve reporting and responding to anti-Asian hate and harassment. If you witness or experience an incident on or off our platform, go to www.StopAAPIHate.org, where you can also find valuable safety tips.
                                    We’re also sharing resources from Hollaback to provide bystander intervention education to everyone who rides, eats, and works with Uber.

                                    And, we’re partnering with local AAPI organizations throughout the country to help support their important work across the community.

                                    This is just the beginning. We’ll continue to work locally with the AAPI community to help make our cities safer.
                                    As a reminder, whether you drive, deliver, ride, or order, everyone who uses Uber must abide by our Community Guidelines.

                                    Racism has no place on our platform. If you tolerate racism, delete Uber.

                                    #StopAsianHate

                                    As many of you know, I'm Chinese by marriage. As none of you know, I was pulled over two days ago, in Nevada, by a white male police officer. Because I'm Chinese.

                                    I know that this forum is mostly populated by straight white males, so I'm not expecting most of you to be able to relate to my life experiences. But I do ask that you try to imagine what was going through my mind during this traffic stop. Not only am I Chinese, I also identify as bisexual. What are my chances of surviving this encounter with a white male police officer?

                                    I now know what the young men who stormed the beach at Normandy felt. I now know what it was to hear the bullets fly by in the jungles of Viet Nam. I survived. Many of my spiritual predecessors did not.

                                    You should have heard this cop. "I pulled you over for doing 91 in a 55 construction zone, but since the zone just started a bit back, I'll delete that from the ticket and give you this 10 mph over the limit violation, as if the limit were 80."

                                    That's the face of hatred, folks. The banality of hatred. He dares threaten my life as a Chinese bisexual and then attempts to mitigate the aggression by "taking it easy on me" with the citation?

                                    I survived. Not everybody does. And most of you will never, ever, understand.

                                    My healing process has only just begun.

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                                    George K
                                    wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:17 last edited by
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                                    @horace said in Asian hate? Seriously?:

                                    My healing process has only just begun.

                                    C'mere and let me give you a hug.

                                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                      Mik
                                      wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:22 last edited by
                                      #66

                                      I wouldn't do that, George, It might be misconstrued.

                                      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                                        Axtremus
                                        wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:37 last edited by Axtremus
                                        #67

                                        Different videos, separate incidents.

                                        Link to video

                                        Link to video

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                                          Horace
                                          wrote on 30 Mar 2021, 21:43 last edited by
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                                          A couple days ago I saw on the Yahoo news feed a story titled "Asian man hospitalized after injuries sustained in beating". Clicking the link took me to a story in which buried in the middle was the info that the incident started with a dispute over dog poop or something. That the authorities did not believe it was race related.

                                          And if it was race related, of course, one must measure, or attempt to measure, the degree of race related hatred amongst the various combinations of skin colors. But that doesn't sell. Only paranoia sells.

                                          Education is extremely important.

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