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  • G George K
    16 Mar 2021, 19:05

    What model of Mac mini did you get?

    Also, why reluctantly?

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    jon-nyc
    wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:08 last edited by
    #16

    @george-k said in Big Sur:

    Also, why reluctantly?

    Horace is rich enough as it is and Klaus resents subsidizing his luxurious lifestyle.

    Only non-witches get due process.

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    • G George K
      16 Mar 2021, 19:05

      What model of Mac mini did you get?

      Also, why reluctantly?

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      Klaus
      wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:38 last edited by
      #17

      @george-k said in Big Sur:

      What model of Mac mini did you get?

      Also, why reluctantly?

      There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

      "Reluctantly" because I'd have liked more RAM and maybe a proper graphics card.

      I hope I won't be disappointed by the 34" display I ordered. It has a lower resolution than the 5K display my iMac has.

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      • J jon-nyc
        16 Mar 2021, 18:37

        @klaus said in Big Sur:

        The thing I'm most excited about is zsh.

        Geek.

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        Klaus
        wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:40 last edited by Klaus
        #18

        @jon-nyc said in Big Sur:

        @klaus said in Big Sur:

        The thing I'm most excited about is zsh.

        Geek.

        Today I found out about Oh My zsh and its Chuck Norris plugin. It is not clear to me how I could live without it until now.

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        • K Klaus
          16 Mar 2021, 19:38

          @george-k said in Big Sur:

          What model of Mac mini did you get?

          Also, why reluctantly?

          There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

          "Reluctantly" because I'd have liked more RAM and maybe a proper graphics card.

          I hope I won't be disappointed by the 34" display I ordered. It has a lower resolution than the 5K display my iMac has.

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          George K
          wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:41 last edited by
          #19

          @klaus said in Big Sur:

          I hope I won't be disappointed by the 34" display I ordered. It has a lower resolution than the 5K display my iMac has.

          Ah, I was going to ask about what display you're using. I'm torn between getting the Mini and waiting for the iMac....

          Let us know!

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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            Aqua Letifer
            wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:43 last edited by
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            The big thing for me this week was that Adobe released Apple silicon versions of their apps, which replaced the old Intel versions. Shit runs even faster now. Today I had Ae, Illustrator, Rush, and Photoshop open at the same time, no problem. (Remember, I just got the MacBook Air.)

            Please love yourself.

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            • G George K
              16 Mar 2021, 19:41

              @klaus said in Big Sur:

              I hope I won't be disappointed by the 34" display I ordered. It has a lower resolution than the 5K display my iMac has.

              Ah, I was going to ask about what display you're using. I'm torn between getting the Mini and waiting for the iMac....

              Let us know!

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              Klaus
              wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 19:44 last edited by
              #21

              @george-k said in Big Sur:

              Ah, I was going to ask about what display you're using

              I've somewhat randomly ordered the LG 35WN75C-B. I want to try something curved.

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              • J jon-nyc
                16 Mar 2021, 19:08

                @george-k said in Big Sur:

                Also, why reluctantly?

                Horace is rich enough as it is and Klaus resents subsidizing his luxurious lifestyle.

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                Axtremus
                wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 23:41 last edited by
                #22

                @jon-nyc said in Big Sur:

                @george-k said in Big Sur:

                Also, why reluctantly?

                Horace is rich enough as it is and Klaus resents subsidizing his luxurious lifestyle.

                @Klaus will soon be further crushed by the realization that Haskell does not work on the Apple M1 silicon yet.

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                • A Axtremus
                  16 Mar 2021, 23:41

                  @jon-nyc said in Big Sur:

                  @george-k said in Big Sur:

                  Also, why reluctantly?

                  Horace is rich enough as it is and Klaus resents subsidizing his luxurious lifestyle.

                  @Klaus will soon be further crushed by the realization that Haskell does not work on the Apple M1 silicon yet.

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                  Klaus
                  wrote on 16 Mar 2021, 23:45 last edited by
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                  @axtremus said in Big Sur:

                  @Klaus will soon be further crushed by the realization that Haskell does not work on the Apple M1 silicon yet.

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                  Luckily I'm recently more fascinated by Agda, and I can compile its sources myself. That said, Agda is written in Haskell ... 😞

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                  • K Klaus
                    16 Mar 2021, 19:38

                    @george-k said in Big Sur:

                    What model of Mac mini did you get?

                    Also, why reluctantly?

                    There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                    "Reluctantly" because I'd have liked more RAM and maybe a proper graphics card.

                    I hope I won't be disappointed by the 34" display I ordered. It has a lower resolution than the 5K display my iMac has.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 12:42 last edited by
                    #24

                    @klaus said in Big Sur:

                    There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                    Did you pick it up yet? If so, how is it?

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      23 Mar 2021, 12:42

                      @klaus said in Big Sur:

                      There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                      Did you pick it up yet? If so, how is it?

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                      Klaus
                      wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 13:27 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Big Sur:

                      @klaus said in Big Sur:

                      There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                      Did you pick it up yet? If so, how is it?

                      Next week, probably.

                      Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it...

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                      • K Klaus
                        23 Mar 2021, 13:27

                        @george-k said in Big Sur:

                        @klaus said in Big Sur:

                        There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                        Did you pick it up yet? If so, how is it?

                        Next week, probably.

                        Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it...

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                        George K
                        wrote on 23 Mar 2021, 13:33 last edited by
                        #26

                        @klaus said in Big Sur:

                        I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money

                        That was one of the big perks of our group practice. We had a "slush fund" that could be used for any "professional or educational" expense. So, that included meetings, and things we needed to do our jobs. I took advantage of that every year by getting a new desktop for myself every other year, and a new laptop the alternate years.

                        When I became an "independent contractor" for my group in 2015, I lost that benefit, of course.

                        Which is why my current computer is 2014 vintage.

                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                        • K Klaus
                          23 Mar 2021, 13:27

                          @george-k said in Big Sur:

                          @klaus said in Big Sur:

                          There seems to be just one model. I ordered it with 16GB of RAM and a 1TB SSD.

                          Did you pick it up yet? If so, how is it?

                          Next week, probably.

                          Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it...

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                          George K
                          wrote on 9 Apr 2021, 21:49 last edited by
                          #27

                          @klaus said in Big Sur:

                          Next week, probably.
                          Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it.

                          Annnnnd?

                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          • G George K
                            9 Apr 2021, 21:49

                            @klaus said in Big Sur:

                            Next week, probably.
                            Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it.

                            Annnnnd?

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                            Klaus
                            wrote on 9 Apr 2021, 23:11 last edited by
                            #28

                            @george-k said in Big Sur:

                            @klaus said in Big Sur:

                            Next week, probably.
                            Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it.

                            Annnnnd?

                            I have the package, but I haven't unwrapped it yet.

                            I've read about quite a few problems with the ARM processor related to Homebrew and a couple of programs I need. Rosetta does seem to be make things complicated, and things get messy when programs containing X86 and ARM code are mixed, or the same program exists in parallel for both.

                            Maybe I'll give it a try soon, but I hope that time will work in my favor.

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                              Axtremus
                              wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 01:52 last edited by
                              #29

                              Homebrew, since version 3.0.0, can supposedly run natively on the Apple M1 silicon. I thought I had installed it on my M1 MacBook Air but apparently I haven't.

                              I found this site helpful to check whether a software title Is Apple Silicon Ready:
                              https://isapplesiliconready.com

                              Have fun with your new M1 Mac!

                              Using various web applications that rely quite heavily on Java scripts, I have found that my M1 MacBook Air often gives noticeable speed boosts over my Intel Core i5 MacBook Air.

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                              • G George K
                                14 Nov 2020, 22:30

                                Mac OS 11 was released this week. It has lots of interface changes and tweaks. I guess Apple considered it important enough of an update to not call it Mac OS X 10.16.

                                I've been booting my Mac from an external SSD via thunderbolt, and overall, I've been pleased with the increase in performance thus far. However, I thought I'd take the plunge and try Big Sur.

                                After cloning the external boot drive to another hard drive, and making sure that I had a recent Time Machine backup AND backups in the cloud, I reformatted the external SSD and installed Mac OS 11.

                                Having done that, using Migration Assistant, I copied my application folder and my home folders from the cloned drive - about half a terabyte.

                                Everything went pretty smoothly, and I am using Mac OS 11 Big Sur now.

                                I am impressed with how much faster it seems to be. It's entirely possible that it's because I wiped the boot drive and started from scratch, but overall, apps launch MUCH faster. Safari is remarkable in it's speed. In the two hours I've been using it, no major glitches so far.

                                My 2014 iMac feels brand new.

                                ETA: Be sure you back up your stuff before this update, as it's a MAJOR one. Back up to the cloud, an external drive, clone your boot drive.

                                And then, back up again.

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                                mark
                                wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 09:27 last edited by
                                #30

                                @george-k said in Big Sur:

                                ETA: Be sure you back up your stuff before this update, as it's a MAJOR one. Back up to the cloud, an external drive, clone your boot drive.
                                And then, back up again.

                                lol.

                                I just let it fly. If it bricked the machine, so be it.

                                It did not brick my MacBook Pro. I am now running Big Sur. I think I was at least one or two major releases behind until last night.

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                                • markM mark
                                  10 Apr 2021, 09:27

                                  @george-k said in Big Sur:

                                  ETA: Be sure you back up your stuff before this update, as it's a MAJOR one. Back up to the cloud, an external drive, clone your boot drive.
                                  And then, back up again.

                                  lol.

                                  I just let it fly. If it bricked the machine, so be it.

                                  It did not brick my MacBook Pro. I am now running Big Sur. I think I was at least one or two major releases behind until last night.

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                                  Axtremus
                                  wrote on 10 Apr 2021, 13:17 last edited by
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                                  @mark said in Big Sur:

                                  I think I was at least one or two major releases behind until last night.

                                  I still have an old Mac running Snow Leopard, and it's good for many things. There, I have Adobe's Creative Suite 6 with a perpetual license, unlike the new Adobe Creative Cloud stuff where I have to pay recurring subscription fees if I want to keep using the new stuff. It also has an old school PDF implementation that can deal with some PDF things that Apple's newer PDF implementation cannot deal with.

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                                  • A Axtremus
                                    10 Apr 2021, 13:17

                                    @mark said in Big Sur:

                                    I think I was at least one or two major releases behind until last night.

                                    I still have an old Mac running Snow Leopard, and it's good for many things. There, I have Adobe's Creative Suite 6 with a perpetual license, unlike the new Adobe Creative Cloud stuff where I have to pay recurring subscription fees if I want to keep using the new stuff. It also has an old school PDF implementation that can deal with some PDF things that Apple's newer PDF implementation cannot deal with.

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                                    mark
                                    wrote on 11 Apr 2021, 05:15 last edited by
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                                    @axtremus I no longer worry what Apple products can or cannot do. The MacBook Pro from Mid 2015 will be the last Apple product I will ever own.

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                                    • G George K
                                      9 Apr 2021, 21:49

                                      @klaus said in Big Sur:

                                      Next week, probably.
                                      Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it.

                                      Annnnnd?

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                                      Klaus
                                      wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 16:25 last edited by Klaus
                                      #33

                                      @george-k said in Big Sur:

                                      @klaus said in Big Sur:

                                      Next week, probably.
                                      Of course I'm not so insane to pay for such superfluous toys with my own money, hence I have to go through some bureaucracy to get it.

                                      Annnnnd?

                                      Finally.

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                                      I was positively surprised how well the migration worked, even across CPU architectures. This is one thing where Mac OS is lightyears ahead of Windows.

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                                        Klaus
                                        wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 16:47 last edited by
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                                        ... and the problems with the M1 chip have already started. Grr. Maybe I'll put it back in the box for a few months.

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                                        • K Klaus
                                          19 Apr 2021, 16:47

                                          ... and the problems with the M1 chip have already started. Grr. Maybe I'll put it back in the box for a few months.

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                                          George K
                                          wrote on 19 Apr 2021, 16:51 last edited by
                                          #35

                                          @klaus what problems?

                                          Rumor is that Apple might introduce new iMacs tomorrow....perhaps I should wait.

                                          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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