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Hey @bachophile

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  • George KG Offline
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    When the DaVinci is acting up and the rep's not calling back!

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    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Fuck robots

      https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/men-incorrectly-believe-their-female-partners-would-be-okay-with-them-having-a-futuristic-sex-robot-56759

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      • bachophileB bachophile

        Fuck robots

        https://www.psypost.org/2020/05/men-incorrectly-believe-their-female-partners-would-be-okay-with-them-having-a-futuristic-sex-robot-56759

        George KG Offline
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        @bachophile there's little doubt that for some procedures, like a radical prostatectomy, the robot is the way to go. I used to HATE that operation. Surgeon goes in, roots his index finger behind the prostate, tearing whatever vasculature is back there, and I have to play catch-up. Then, he'd pack it with laps while, hopefully, things clotted off enough that he could see what the FUCK is bleeding.

        It always took about 3 hours, and even the fastest urologists were at 2 hours.

        With the robot, it can take longer, of course. 4-5 hours was typical at our place. But, I never had to transfuse any of those patients. When it's time for my prostatectomy, I want Dr. DaVinci across the table from the urologist.

        But...

        When general surgeons started using the robot for gallbladders (taking a 1 hour case and making a 4 hour case out of it - not to mention standing the patient up in steep reverse Trendelenburg) that's just silly. Even sillier is when they used it for inguinal hernias.

        For hysterectomies, a talented gynecologist (I know, oxymoron) could do a vag hyst in about 90 minutes. An untalented one, in about 3 hours. I fail to see how it's better than a laparoscopic assisted approach, but I guess the gynes and the general surgeons need their toys.

        I understand that now the ortho guys are using robots for total joints. Never seen one, never hope to.

        I'm so glad I'm retired.

        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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