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    George K
    wrote on 5 Mar 2021, 23:15 last edited by
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    I read "Hillbilly Elegy" a couple of years ago. I found it interesting, engaging, depressing, and, ultimately, inspiring. Vance's story of the world of rural Kentucky and Ohio was disturbing and frustrating.

    So, this afternoon, I watched the movie (directed by Ron Howard). Glenn Close was amazing, as was Amy Adams.

    But, if you think the book was disturbing and depressing, don't watch the movie, unless you want to get into a warm bath and open an artery.

    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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      Mik
      wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 00:42 last edited by
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      I will have to read the book, but the movie was an exceptionally myopic effort. I grew up 8 miles from Middletown and knew a hell of a lot of those people. My SIL's dad worked at Armco and later was the union's attorney. the vast majority of Appalachian families that came up to work there used it as a springboard to a better life for them and better futures for their kids. Even the author went to Yale from that background. If there was a purpose in that movie other than to disparage Appalachian culture I never saw it.

      “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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        jon-nyc
        wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 01:54 last edited by
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        I’ve been wanting to watch it.

        The book was gripping.

        "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
        -Cormac McCarthy

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          taiwan_girl
          wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 03:50 last edited by
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          There was a documentary I watched a few years ago, called "Country Boys"

          It was really good and introduce me to a part of the US I had no understanding of.

          Link to video

          I think that the documentary deals with the same part of the world as the book that George mentions. (But note, i have not read or seen the book yet)

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            Loki
            wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 04:57 last edited by
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            The movie is very different than the book, but captures the idea. Glenn Close delivers an amazing performance. The movie I believe was not that well received. I don’t know what to think but the movie captured my interest.

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              jon-nyc
              wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 10:10 last edited by
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              My understanding is the movie was received well by the public but poorly by reviewers, for the predictable reason that the story has a right-of-center narrative.

              "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
              -Cormac McCarthy

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              • J jon-nyc
                6 Mar 2021, 01:54

                I’ve been wanting to watch it.

                The book was gripping.

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                George K
                wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 12:22 last edited by
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                @jon-nyc said in Depressing:

                I’ve been wanting to watch it.

                Netflix

                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                  6 Mar 2021, 10:10

                  My understanding is the movie was received well by the public but poorly by reviewers, for the predictable reason that the story has a right-of-center narrative.

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                  George K
                  wrote on 6 Mar 2021, 12:24 last edited by
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                  @jon-nyc said in Depressing:

                  story has a right-of-center narrative.

                  Perhaps it's just my bias, but I didn't get that impression. The only scene where I thought it came close was at the Yale dinner, when someone made a "Redneck" comment, and Vance responded.

                  Other than the "If you work at it hard, you might get somewhere" narrative, that is.

                  "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                  The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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