Loki - we got yer immunity passport right here

jon-nyc

From Cuomo’s daily update. Note a recent negative test is sufficient if you’re not vaccinated.

The State announced a pilot program to test the Excelsior Pass at Madison Square Garden and the Barclays Center. The Excelsior Pass, developed in partnership with IBM, will use proven, secure technology to confirm an individual's vaccination or a recent negative COVID-19 test to help fast-track the reopening of many entertainment venues and other businesses in accordance with New York State guidelines. This new technology was successfully tested during the initial phase of the pilot during the Brooklyn Nets game at the Barclays Center on February 27. It will now be tested for a second time during the New York Rangers game tonight, March 2, at Madison Square Garden.

Loki

Love it!

jon-nyc

I’m ok with it as a temporary measure to allow early reopening of large venues. But by the time vaccines are generally available to all comers I would no longer support it.

Loki

@jon-nyc said in Loki - we got yer immunity passport right here:

I’m ok with it as a temporary measure to allow early reopening of large venues. But by the time vaccines are generally available to all comers I would no longer support it.

As long as they don’t delay reopening anything I’m actually okay with it. I’m assuming the infection rates drop faster than our expectations.

Copper

Alabama is scheduling their football ticket sales for next fall under the assumption that the stadium will be filled to capacity.

George K · "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/nations-first-covid-vaccine-passport-coming-to-new-york/

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jon-nyc

That was in Cuomo's daily update last night. I bookmarked the signup page.

Loki

Great to see. Again, one is welcome not to opt for the vaccine and stay the fvck home.

And increasingly colleges are making the vaccine mandatory:

https://nypost.com/2021/03/25/rutgers-makes-covid-19-vaccine-mandatory-for-students/

Huzzah

Jolly

Again, what about the people who cannot take the vaccine?

taiwan_girl

There is always going to be a certain % of people that will not be able to do anything they want.

Amusement park - I want to go on the ride, but I am below a certain height - I cannot go.

Want to buy alcohol - I am below a certain age, so cannot.

I want to drive a car, but I cannot see very well - I cannot get a license.

I Want to go to a restaurant that requires I have a vaccine, but I cannot get one - I cannot go to that restaurant.

In a perfect world, we would be able to have everybody do everything.

Unfortunately, the world is not perfect.

Copper

Don't forget the ADA

Everyone must have access

taiwan_girl

@copper said in Loki - we got yer immunity passport right here:

Don't forget the ADA

Everyone must have access

But if there are safety issues, like in the examples I gave above, then it does not apply.

I think it is possible that not having a COVID vaccine is a safety issues, not a disability issue.

Copper

The people with the vaccine are safe.

Yes, I know it comes with the admonition that it is not perfect.

But if the vaccine doesn't protect the carrier then the passport means nothing anyway.

taiwan_girl

You make a good point Copper, but sometimes the good of society comes in front of the individual.

And, sometimes when you go deeper, the individual does have an impact on society.

for example: seat belt for cars or helmets for motorcycles. Someone could say that, "it is my choice. If I want to take a chance, I should be able to." However, if you do not wear a seat belt or helmet and are in an accident, it is more likely your injury will be worse. There fore, you will have more expenses at the hospital, which ultimately will be passed along to society as a whole.

Copper

The passport doesn't protect anyone, the vaccine does.

Loki

You don’t have to get the vaccine. The vaccine gets you around in an otherwise closed economy. Those who don’t want the vaccine don’t care about the economy.

It’s that simple. If you don’t give a fvck stay the fvck away.