Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?"
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wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 12:53 last edited by
Like on the Y2K bug, the overwhelming majority of the information technology community woke up on January 1, 2000, examined the various IT systems, and declared that the world has largely averted the Y2K disaster.
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wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 13:13 last edited by
No. It's not like that at all. Billions and billions of dollars and man hours were poured into averting the Y2K issue. Nothing like that happened here.
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No. It's not like that at all. Billions and billions of dollars and man hours were poured into averting the Y2K issue. Nothing like that happened here.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 14:15 last edited by@mik said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
No. It's not like that at all. Billions and billions of dollars and man hours were poured into averting the Y2K issue. Nothing like that happened here.
See https://www.eac.gov/payments-and-grants/election-security-funds for federal money appropriated for election security. You can look up additional state appropriations if you wish.
The point is the experts who work closely with the systems examined the systems and largely found that the systems worked fine -- the various bad things people thought might happen have been shown to have largely been averted.
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wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 14:24 last edited by
Nah, Ax is full-o-shit, but he just won't admit it. Turkey's elections are fairer and more transparent than ours. That's not a complement.
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud. Except in very limited circumstances, we simply don't need them.
We do badly need an election system that is fair, verifiable and safe, unless we wish to install permanent scepticism in the results. When free people no longer believe their elections are not fair, bad things happen.
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Nah, Ax is full-o-shit, but he just won't admit it. Turkey's elections are fairer and more transparent than ours. That's not a complement.
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud. Except in very limited circumstances, we simply don't need them.
We do badly need an election system that is fair, verifiable and safe, unless we wish to install permanent scepticism in the results. When free people no longer believe their elections are not fair, bad things happen.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 15:05 last edited by@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.
It’s nice to see you give credence to President Carter’s pronouncements.
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@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.
It’s nice to see you give credence to President Carter’s pronouncements.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 15:12 last edited by@axtremus said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.
It’s nice to see you give credence to President Carter’s pronouncements.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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@axtremus said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even Jimmy Carter has said that mail-in ballots are very susceptible to fraud.
It’s nice to see you give credence to President Carter’s pronouncements.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 15:20 last edited by@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
It really depends on the technology and the failure mode.
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@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
It really depends on the technology and the failure mode.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 17:18 last edited by@axtremus said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
It really depends on the technology and the failure mode.
When did they invent digital clocks?
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@axtremus said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
It really depends on the technology and the failure mode.
When did they invent digital clocks?
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 18:57 last edited by@jolly said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
When did they invent digital clocks?
@Jolly the digital clock is but one example that breaks your "a broken clock is right twice a day" saying. Even with older, decidedly analog, time indicating technologies, there are failure modes that render the "a broken clock is right twice a day" saying inapplicable. Take, for example, a sundial with a bent or missing 'stick', it would not tell the right time twice a day.
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wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 19:57 last edited by
In England, a sundial is right about once a month.
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In England, a sundial is right about once a month.
wrote on 1 Mar 2021, 21:07 last edited by@doctor-phibes said in Nov 2, 2020: "Is your ballot safe?":
In England, a sundial is right about once a month.
Well, that's better than Ax....