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Saudi Crown Prince Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing

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  • AxtremusA Offline
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/jamal-khashoggi-killing-cia-report.html

    Saudi Crown Prince Is Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing in U.S. Report
    But the Biden administration stopped short of directly penalizing Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, calculating that the risk of damaging American interests was too great.

    The declassified CIA report:
    https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/the-report-on-jamal-khashoggi-killing/ddc9578e0994f690/full.pdf

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    • taiwan_girlT Offline
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      Interesting reading. It is tough to be a diplomat sometimes. Nothing is usually "black or white". Always colors in-between.

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      • AxtremusA Axtremus

        https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/jamal-khashoggi-killing-cia-report.html

        Saudi Crown Prince Is Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing in U.S. Report
        But the Biden administration stopped short of directly penalizing Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, calculating that the risk of damaging American interests was too great.

        The declassified CIA report:
        https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/the-report-on-jamal-khashoggi-killing/ddc9578e0994f690/full.pdf

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        @axtremus said in Saudi Crown Prince Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing:

        https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/26/us/politics/jamal-khashoggi-killing-cia-report.html

        Saudi Crown Prince Is Held Responsible for Khashoggi Killing in U.S. Report
        But the Biden administration stopped short of directly penalizing Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman, calculating that the risk of damaging American interests was too great.

        The declassified CIA report:
        https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/the-report-on-jamal-khashoggi-killing/ddc9578e0994f690/full.pdf

        “Stopped short”. How generous. Oh and what an amazing conclusion, risk of damaging American interests was too great. Oh I learned sooo much this morning. LOL

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        • HoraceH Offline
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          Horace
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          I watched a documentary about that recently. They really did think they would get away with it. Planned the whole thing like a Mission Impossible. Complete with disguises. A guy left the consulate, after the assassination, disguised as Khashoggi, meant to appear on camera to establish that he left alive. Maybe they even get their ideas from the movies. (Don't we all?) Who knows how many similar assassinations are actually gotten away with.

          Education is extremely important.

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            xenon
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            Why’d they chop the dude up though? Doesn’t seem like they actually wanted to send a message to anyone.

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            • RenaudaR Offline
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              Ease of disposal.

              Elbows up!

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              • RenaudaR Renauda

                Ease of disposal.

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                @renauda My understanding is that they started chopping before killing him. Seems a little inconvenient.

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                • MikM Offline
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                  A bit wiggly perhaps but the net result is the same.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    MbS has immunity

                    The Biden administration told a U.S. court that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman’s status as a sitting head of government shields him from a civil lawsuit brought by the fiancée of slain Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi.

                    Mr. Khashoggi, a former royal insider who criticized Prince Mohammed’s policies in Washington Post columns, was killed in 2018 and his body dismembered by Saudi agents during a visit to the kingdom’s Istanbul consulate where he was seeking papers needed to marry Hatice Cengiz, a Turkish citizen.

                    The American intelligence community concluded that the crown prince likely ordered the killing. The Saudi government initially denied involvement in Mr. Khashoggi’s death but later acknowledged that government officials carried out the killing and said the crown prince wasn’t personally involved.

                    In a filing Thursday, the State Department said “common law principles of immunity” informed its determination of Prince Mohammed’s status, but that “does not reflect a judgment on the underlying conduct at issue in the litigation.” The de facto Saudi leader was deputy prime minister at the time of the killing but in September he was named prime minister, a title traditionally held by the king—currently his father, King Salman.

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                      Makes sense. I think this has been US (and most country's) policy for a long time.

                      The head of the country is immune.

                      Having this type of policy protects the US president also.

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