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  • RenaudaR Offline
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    Renauda
    wrote on last edited by Renauda
    #3

    Yeah we still have a couple of coal fired plants. They're scheduled to be phased out by 2023. By then we'll be exclusively gas fired generation in addition to a couple of small hydro dams down south.

    There are also some wind farms down south but I don't know how much power they generate. The City of Medicine Hat though is geo-thermal and has been for some years now.

    Read the article posted above though. Wasn't too impressed either, gives the impression we like coal and want to keep it. We don't. It also fails to point out the reason things run up here in the winter is because all industrial construction is at minimum certified to -45 C. More often than not it can operate at -60 C.

    There's a reason we build drilling rigs and gas plants here and export them to places like Alaska, Siberia and Northern China. Texas built rigs and oilfield equipment in general don't work worth a damn in the cold.

    Elbows up!

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      xenon
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      Fossil fuel plants aren’t intrinsically winterized. Even the nuclear plant went down due to bad winterization.

      Alberta winterizes their plants.

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      • Doctor PhibesD Offline
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        Doctor Phibes
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        #5

        The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

        Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

        I was only joking

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        • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

          Where I lived in Ontario they relied heavily on hydro-electric. They actually call it 'hydro' over there rather than 'electric'.

          It probably wasn't as cold as Alberta, but it was a hell of a lot colder than Texas. It routinely got down to -30C.

          Canada relies a lot more on sustainable energy than the US.

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          Copper
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          #6

          @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

          Where I lived in Ontario they relied heavily on hydro-electric. They actually call it 'hydro' over there rather than 'electric'.

          Remember the blackout of 1965. The whole northeast including Boston and New York went dark because someone pulled the plug from Niagara Falls.

          They even made a Doris Day movie about it

          https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063801/

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          • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

            The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

            Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

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            Jolly
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            #7

            @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

            The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

            Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

            What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

            “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

            Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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            • JollyJ Jolly

              @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

              The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

              Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

              What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

              Doctor PhibesD Offline
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              Doctor Phibes
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              #8

              @jolly said in Alberta?:

              @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

              The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

              Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

              What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

              To be honest, I have absolutely no idea, however the Canadians seem to manage to winterise their hydro plants pretty effectively.

              67% of Canadian electricity is generated from renewables, according to Wiki

              I was only joking

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                Rainman
                wrote on last edited by
                #9

                @jolly said in Alberta?:

                What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

                dingdingdingding!! I win!
                Nuclear. Or Newclar, depending on where you learned how to spell and pronounce, which of course I mean Texas in the bush country. Or cuntry, again depending on location.

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                • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                  @jolly said in Alberta?:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

                  The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

                  Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

                  What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

                  To be honest, I have absolutely no idea, however the Canadians seem to manage to winterise their hydro plants pretty effectively.

                  67% of Canadian electricity is generated from renewables, according to Wiki

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                  Jolly
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                  #10

                  @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

                  @jolly said in Alberta?:

                  @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

                  The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

                  Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

                  What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

                  To be honest, I have absolutely no idea, however the Canadians seem to manage to winterise their hydro plants pretty effectively.

                  67% of Canadian electricity is generated from renewables, according to Wiki

                  I've seen the rivers in Texas. I can spit over some of them.

                  “Cry havoc and let slip the DOGE of war!”

                  Those who cheered as J-6 American prisoners were locked in solitary for 18 months without trial, now suddenly fight tooth and nail for foreign terrorists’ "due process". — Buck Sexton

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                    Doctor Phibes
                    wrote on last edited by Doctor Phibes
                    #11

                    The question seems to be moot, since Texas didn't winterise any of them.

                    Blaming this disaster on environmentalism is like blaming WW2 on vegetarianism.

                    I was only joking

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                    • Doctor PhibesD Doctor Phibes

                      The question seems to be moot, since Texas didn't winterise any of them.

                      Blaming this disaster on environmentalism is like blaming WW2 on vegetarianism.

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                      Renauda
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                      #12

                      @doctor-phibes

                      Vegetarianism? Interesting, you may just be onto something. He was also teetotal, or imbibed very little and then only with food .

                      I wonder.

                      Elbows up!

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                      • JollyJ Jolly

                        @doctor-phibes said in Alberta?:

                        The idea that gas and oil would have saved Texas is utter bullshit.

                        Ill-preparedness is what caused the disaster to be worse than it needed to be.

                        What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

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                        Renauda
                        wrote on last edited by
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                        @jolly said in Alberta?:

                        What's harder to winterize, a solar panel farm or a coal plant?

                        I failed to mention that solar is growing popularity here. It's not that it is problem to winterize the panels and associated faclities - hell, most of the panels are on the flat roofs of commerical buildings and private homes . Rather it is a problem having sufficient duration and concentration of sunlight this far north in the winter months.

                        Winter sunlight shouldn't be a problem for Texas.

                        Elbows up!

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