Trump's COVID was worse than we knew
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@george-k said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
For those who don't know, a SaO2 in the 80s is very very low. The blood that's coming back to your heart to be oxygenated usually runs in the mid to high 70s. We would routinely put people with SaO2s in the 80s on ventilators.
If that is the only smoking gun for seriousness more info is required. My father’s Sa02 once dropped into the high eighties when he was in his eighties on a higher altitude vacation and while it was very concerning the trip carried on after some medical attention.
Of course a dip in conjunction with COVID is another matter but I’ve seen this movie before without COVID.
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@xenon said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
He faked it pretty well. I can't imagine I'd be up to doing fake photo shoots signing papers and waving from a balcony if I felt like that.
Or the article doesn’t really capture the seriousness. We’ve seen too many real live examples of serious COVID and none of them could do a road show and deliver long oratory to a screaming mob. No doubt the concern was real but actually it looked to me not so bad and it would be tough to convince me otherwise.
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I don't remember seeing him even cough.
If he were to have had a coughing fit like Hillary, the MSM would have pushed to invoke the 25th amendment immediately, like by 5:00 pm or sooner, even on a Sunday.
Hey George, do you think he was doped up with the good stuff, to make him not cough, appear to have abundant energy, like superman brushing off Covid as a nothing, isn't he amazing, just look at how tough he is?
Massive doses of vitamins, codeine for the cough, drugs to eliminate pain (Dilaudid). Am I right? If so, can I be a doctor too?
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I think there were articles about some people with COVID who were functioning well, but eventually had to go to the hospital. When they go there, and were checked their oxygen, everybody was amazed that they were still functioning with such a low level.
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@taiwan_girl said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
When they go there, and were checked their oxygen, everybody was amazed that they were still functioning with such a low level.
Cameron Slidell (I think that was his name) is an intensivist in New York. He said exactly that - he was shocked at how "functional" people were with numbers that were appallingly low. He was one of the TwitterDocs who pushed for restraint in the push to intubate and ventilate people.
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Yes I think a lot of the early mortality in the beginning was intubating too many too early
Now the standard is to avoid intubation as long as possible because once the tube is in, mortality skyrockets.
Now we are even doing awake non intubated ECMO, which until recently was unheard of AFAIK.
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@bachophile said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
awake non intubated ECMO
The hell you say! Wow.
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@george-k said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
@bachophile said in Trump's COVID was worse than we knew:
awake non intubated ECMO
The hell you say! Wow.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7654292/
Here it’s reported as a case report...
but it’s become standard in my institution where possible.
Even on a Knesset member. https://www.jpost.com/health-science/david-bitan-in-serious-stable-condition-1-week-into-covid-hospitalization-652660
