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The "Revenge Mother"

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  • MikM Offline
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    Mik
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    #3

    Agreed. I think it’s deep inside us to do so.

    “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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    • Catseye3C Catseye3

      A part of me always has a sneaking admiration for revenge-takers. Maybe not in these circs -- crowded environment, where you're putting others at risk. But there's something, I don't know, pure about the eye-for-an-eye thing, when the thing taken from you is a beloved one.

      I don't advocate it! But I sort of understand it.

      I could also see myself doing it.

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      #4

      @catseye3 Oh yeah, especially when the murdered daughter was just a child.

      The daughter was about 7 years old.

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        For those who don't remember this case:

        Wiki -- On 5 May 1980, Anna Bachmeier did not go to school to spite her mother. When trying to visit a friend her own age, Anna was abducted by Klaus Grabowski, a 35-year-old butcher. He is said to have held Anna for several hours at home and then strangled her with a pair of tights. According to the Prosecutor he had tied the girl tight, packed her into a box, which he then buried on the canal bank in a shallow grave.

        Klaus Grabowski was a convicted sex offender and had previously been sentenced for the sexual abuse of two girls. During his detention, he was castrated in 1976 and, two years later, underwent hormone treatment. Once arrested, Grabowski stated that he did not intend to sexually abuse Anna. He said the girl had wanted to tell her mother that he had touched her inappropriately, with the aim of extorting money from him.

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          Loki
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          I get what she did and she knew she likely would go to jail for at least some time.

          Hard to let someone off even though he was a monster, because it sets a precedence. Glad she got out early and had some semblance of what turned out to be a short life. Seems like her deathbed wish was to tell her version again and let that be her legacy.

          All my comments are based on what is included in this thread.

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            I could easily see her getting just a token sentence here, with the right judge and prosecutor. Or not.

            "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
            -Cormac McCarthy

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I could easily see her getting just a token sentence here, with the right judge and prosecutor. Or not.

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              George K
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              @jon-nyc said in The "Revenge Mother":

              I could easily see her getting just a token sentence here,

              6 years and released after three.

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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              • Catseye3C Catseye3

                A part of me always has a sneaking admiration for revenge-takers. Maybe not in these circs -- crowded environment, where you're putting others at risk. But there's something, I don't know, pure about the eye-for-an-eye thing, when the thing taken from you is a beloved one.

                I don't advocate it! But I sort of understand it.

                I could also see myself doing it.

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                @catseye3 said in The "Revenge Mother":

                A part of me always has a sneaking admiration for revenge-takers. Maybe not in these circs -- crowded environment, where you're putting others at risk. But there's something, I don't know, pure about the eye-for-an-eye thing, when the thing taken from you is a beloved one.

                I don't advocate it! But I sort of understand it.

                I could also see myself doing it.

                Agree.

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                • MikM Mik

                  Agreed. I think it’s deep inside us to do so.

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                  jodi
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                  #10

                  @mik said in The "Revenge Mother":

                  Agreed. I think it’s deep inside us to do so.

                  Yes. I could see myself doing all sorts of things (that I would never in a million years do normally) if my kids were harmed or in danger.

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                    Here's an American precedent I remember.

                    Link to video

                    Education is extremely important.

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                    • HoraceH Horace

                      Here's an American precedent I remember.

                      Link to video

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                      @horace

                      5 years probation.

                      That’s what I meant by token.

                      "You never know what worse luck your bad luck has saved you from."
                      -Cormac McCarthy

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