The Four

[xenon]

@jolly said in The Four:

alty revenues to the Federal Treasury and eliminate funding for important conservation programs such as the Land and Water Conservation Fund (LWCF)."
The order will result in a GDP loss of $700 billion and the federal government will lose its biggest revenue generator, the letter stated. One of the other concerns they share is America returning to dependence on foreign oil.
According to the members, New Mexico is being di

https://www.wsj.com/articles/whats-the-impact-of-president-bidens-oil-drilling-freeze-on-federal-lands-11611677934#:~:text=U.S. oil production on federal,in government revenue last year.

According to WSJ, drilling on federal lands accounts for 9% of oil production in the U.S. Hard to square that with almost a $1T lost.

I'm not saying it's a good EO, just that the figures seem like hyperbole.

[taiwan_girl]

Meanwhile.....

GM says that they will make only electric cars by 2035

(https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2021/01/28/general-motors-commits-to-being-carbon-neutral-by-2040/?sh=5370f3426355)

[George K]

Which is the most lithium-rich country in the world?

Whatever it might be, it'll become the mid-21st century Saudi Arabia.

[taiwan_girl]

I am optimistic that alternates will be found.

[Mik]

Optimism is not a strategy.

[Copper]

We'll make a law that alternates will be found.

[Jolly]

@taiwan_girl said in The Four:

Meanwhile.....

GM says that they will make only electric cars by 2035

(https://www.forbes.com/sites/samabuelsamid/2021/01/28/general-motors-commits-to-being-carbon-neutral-by-2040/?sh=5370f3426355)

When are they going to start making decent ones?

[Doctor Phibes]

@george-k said in The Four:

Which is the most lithium-rich country in the world?

Bolivia, and Argentina 2nd.

There's going to be a lot of jokes about fading into Bolivian.

[Mik]

Actually, Chile has the largest known reserves at 8,600,000 metric tons. There are about 17 million metric tons of known lithium reserves.

One metric ton can produce about 83 Tesla 70Kwh batteries at 12Kg per.
So we currently know of enough lithium to produce 1.4 billion electric cars under current technology.

Coincidentally there are currently right around that many vehicles on the road worldwide, and expected to be 2 billion by 2050.

Lithium ain't gonna cut it and as I said earlier, optimism is not a strategy.

[Doctor Phibes]

@mik said in The Four:

Actually, Chile has the largest known reserves at 8,600,000 metric tons.

Not according to this

https://www.nsenergybusiness.com/features/six-largest-lithium-reserves-world/

[Mik]

The pub I got my information from is the same one they cite in the article, but it does not explain the huge discrepancy between the chart I cited and the paragraph after. Maybe what I looked at was the reserves in existing mines.

https://pubs.usgs.gov/periodicals/mcs2020/mcs2020-lithium.pdf

But, in true TNCR fashion, you still have your head up your ass and wouldn’t know the truth if it bit you on the ass.

[Copper]

I refuse to believe that we have a member who is not an expert on Lithium reserves.

[Aqua Letifer]

@copper said in The Four:

I refuse to believe that we have a member who is not an expert on Lithium reserves.

Okay props, that's a good one.