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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #6

    He didn’t say that either, did he.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

      He didn’t say that either, did he.

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      Horace
      wrote on last edited by Horace
      #7

      @jon-nyc said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

      He didn’t say that either, did he.

      I'm not entirely confident that you're unbiased in this conversation. And I'm not entirely confident in your reading comprehension skills.

      Donald Trump is, in fact, the first president since Herbert Hoover to lead his party to losing the presidency, the House, and the Senate all in a single term. Along with being the first president to be impeached twice and the first game-show host elected to the office, that’s Trump’s claim to the history books. Well, that and 400,000 dead Americans and the failed coup d’état business.

      Education is extremely important.

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        jon-nyc
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        #8

        Doesn’t mean he blames literally every death on him.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          Doesn’t mean he blames literally every death on him.

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          Horace
          wrote on last edited by
          #9

          @jon-nyc said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

          Doesn’t mean he blames literally every death on him.

          No, he's a writer and a manipulator. Trying to make a living appealing to Trump haters. It's a big business these days.

          Education is extremely important.

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          • LuFins DadL Offline
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            LuFins Dad
            wrote on last edited by
            #10

            And this is exactly how we got Trump in the first place. Nice job. Let's just keep pushing that pendulum further.

            The Brad

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            • LuFins DadL LuFins Dad

              And this is exactly how we got Trump in the first place. Nice job. Let's just keep pushing that pendulum further.

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #11

              @lufins-dad said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

              And this is exactly how we got Trump in the first place. Nice job. Let's just keep pushing that pendulum further.

              Yep. It is all so incredibly stupid and most of all, self-obsessed. Just winning, that's all. Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

              Education is extremely important.

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              • HoraceH Horace

                @lufins-dad said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                And this is exactly how we got Trump in the first place. Nice job. Let's just keep pushing that pendulum further.

                Yep. It is all so incredibly stupid and most of all, self-obsessed. Just winning, that's all. Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

                Catseye3C Offline
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                Catseye3
                wrote on last edited by
                #12

                @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

                No. He wasn't.

                Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                • Catseye3C Catseye3

                  @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                  Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

                  No. He wasn't.

                  HoraceH Offline
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                  Horace
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #13

                  @catseye3 said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                  @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                  Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

                  No. He wasn't.

                  Well, as you are a person who has carefully guarded anything about herself here over the years, I don't have an opinion about whether you're full of shit about that.

                  Education is extremely important.

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                  • HoraceH Horace

                    @catseye3 said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                    @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                    Trump was a mirror to those who hate him most.

                    No. He wasn't.

                    Well, as you are a person who has carefully guarded anything about herself here over the years, I don't have an opinion about whether you're full of shit about that.

                    Catseye3C Offline
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                    Catseye3
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #14

                    @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                    Well, as you are a person who has carefully guarded anything about herself here over the years, I don't have an opinion about whether you're full of shit about that.

                    What I guard, "carefully" or not, is my lookout and not yours, and has nothing to do with your ridiculous statement about Trump being a mirror to his haters.

                    Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      Goodbye to Donald J. Trump

                      Well, that sucked.

                      Memo to MAGA and all its myriad fellow-travelers: Maybe Death of a Salesman as presented by Leni Riefenstahl just wasn’t the show Americans were dying to tune into this season.

                      And, while we’re at it, maybe turning your party over to Generalissimo Walter Mitty, his hideous scheming spawn, and the studio audience from Hee-Haw was not just absolutely aces as a political strategy.

                      Think on it, Cletus. I know this whole thing still sounds like your idea of a good time — how’s that working out for you?

                      Let me refresh your memory: On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Republicans controlled not only the White House but both houses of Congress. They were in a historically strong position elsewhere as well, controlling both legislative chambers in 32 states. They pissed that away like they were midnight drunks karaoke-warbling that old Chumbawumba song: In 2021, they control approximately squat. The House is run by Nancy Pelosi. The Senate is run, as a practical matter, by Kamala Harris. And Joe Biden won the presidency, notwithstanding whatever the nut-cutlet guest-hosting for Dennis Prager this week has to say about it.

                      Donald Trump is, in fact, the first president since Herbert Hoover to lead his party to losing the presidency, the House, and the Senate all in a single term. Along with being the first president to be impeached twice and the first game-show host elected to the office, that’s Trump’s claim to the history books. Well, that and 400,000 dead Americans and the failed coup d’état business.

                      As for the ratings Trump fears and worships, ask the Third Lady: Melania Trump departs the scene the most unpopular presidential wife in recorded statistical history.

                      You Trumpish Republicans sneered that Joe Biden was too corrupt and too senescent to win a presidential campaign, that he was one part mafioso and one part turnip.

                      That turnip kicked your dumb asses from Delaware to D.C.

                      So you rioted. Real smart move, Cletus.

                      Five Americans are dead. Barricades have been erected around the Capitol. Thousands of federal troops have been deployed to the streets of Washington. State capitols have been obliged to prepare for siege. Americans blame you for this — and they are not wrong.

                      “Trust the plan,” the QAnon cultists say. Is this what you were planning? I know you are stupid, but you are not that stupid.

                      “Oh, but he fights!” you’ll say — over and over and over. He didn’t fight — he tweeted. He’s ten feet tall on social media and a pushover in real life. Trade deficit: up. Unemployment rate: rising. Abortion rate: rising. Beijing: rising. The coronavirus body-count: rising.

                      But he sure did tweet a lot!

                      And he pardoned Roger Stone — at least he took care of that pressing national priority.

                      “But the judges!” you protest. Fair point: Trump’s absurd attempts to overturn the election through specious legal challenges were laughed out of court by the very men and women he appointed to the bench. Even his judges think he’s a joke.

                      Everybody has figured that out. Except you.

                      And so, goodbye, Donald J. Trump, the man who wanted to be Conrad Hilton but turned out to be Paris Hilton. Au revoir, Ivanka and Jared, Uday and Qusay — there’s a table for four reserved for you at Dorsia. So long, Melania — it’s still not entirely clear what you got out of this, but I hope it was worth it. A fond farewell to Ted Cruz’s reputation and Mike Pence’s self-respect, Lindsey Graham’s manhood and Fox News’s business model. In with “Dr.” Jill Biden, out with “Dr.” Sebastian Gorka.

                      Good night, ladies, good night, sweet ladies, good night, good night.

                      I’m sure we’ll all meet again. But I’d really rather we didn’t..

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                      Loki
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #15

                      Glad he’s having a party with his rhetorical flair. There is nothing to be learned here.

                      I can tell unity is the most naive thought of 2021. Biden ought back off that before he becomes a national joke.

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                      • Catseye3C Catseye3

                        @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                        Well, as you are a person who has carefully guarded anything about herself here over the years, I don't have an opinion about whether you're full of shit about that.

                        What I guard, "carefully" or not, is my lookout and not yours, and has nothing to do with your ridiculous statement about Trump being a mirror to his haters.

                        HoraceH Offline
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                        Horace
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #16

                        @catseye3 said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                        @horace said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                        Well, as you are a person who has carefully guarded anything about herself here over the years, I don't have an opinion about whether you're full of shit about that.

                        What I guard, "carefully" or not, is my lookout and not yours, and has nothing to do with your ridiculous statement about Trump being a mirror to his haters.

                        Oh, he is.

                        And those three words carry more weight, as I am a person who reveals himself here. So don't engage me anymore, I really don't care.

                        Education is extremely important.

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                        • L Loki

                          Glad he’s having a party with his rhetorical flair. There is nothing to be learned here.

                          I can tell unity is the most naive thought of 2021. Biden ought back off that before he becomes a national joke.

                          HoraceH Offline
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                          Horace
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #17

                          @loki said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                          Glad he’s having a party with his rhetorical flair.

                          Yep he's a writer with probably no other skills whatsoever.

                          Education is extremely important.

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                          • L Loki

                            Glad he’s having a party with his rhetorical flair. There is nothing to be learned here.

                            I can tell unity is the most naive thought of 2021. Biden ought back off that before he becomes a national joke.

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                            Catseye3
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #18

                            @loki said in Kevin Williamson’s goodbye to Trump:

                            Glad he’s having a party with his rhetorical flair. There is nothing to be learned here. <

                            I'll agree with that. And his writing style would be described by a favorite comedy writer (now dead) of mine, Peg Bracken, as the "Look Ma, I Can Write" school.

                            I can tell unity is the most naive thought of 2021. Biden ought back off that before he becomes a national joke. <

                            Agree with that, too.

                            Success is measured by your discipline and inner peace. – Mike Ditka

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                            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                              Goodbye to Donald J. Trump

                              Well, that sucked.

                              Memo to MAGA and all its myriad fellow-travelers: Maybe Death of a Salesman as presented by Leni Riefenstahl just wasn’t the show Americans were dying to tune into this season.

                              And, while we’re at it, maybe turning your party over to Generalissimo Walter Mitty, his hideous scheming spawn, and the studio audience from Hee-Haw was not just absolutely aces as a political strategy.

                              Think on it, Cletus. I know this whole thing still sounds like your idea of a good time — how’s that working out for you?

                              Let me refresh your memory: On the day Donald Trump was sworn in as president, Republicans controlled not only the White House but both houses of Congress. They were in a historically strong position elsewhere as well, controlling both legislative chambers in 32 states. They pissed that away like they were midnight drunks karaoke-warbling that old Chumbawumba song: In 2021, they control approximately squat. The House is run by Nancy Pelosi. The Senate is run, as a practical matter, by Kamala Harris. And Joe Biden won the presidency, notwithstanding whatever the nut-cutlet guest-hosting for Dennis Prager this week has to say about it.

                              Donald Trump is, in fact, the first president since Herbert Hoover to lead his party to losing the presidency, the House, and the Senate all in a single term. Along with being the first president to be impeached twice and the first game-show host elected to the office, that’s Trump’s claim to the history books. Well, that and 400,000 dead Americans and the failed coup d’état business.

                              As for the ratings Trump fears and worships, ask the Third Lady: Melania Trump departs the scene the most unpopular presidential wife in recorded statistical history.

                              You Trumpish Republicans sneered that Joe Biden was too corrupt and too senescent to win a presidential campaign, that he was one part mafioso and one part turnip.

                              That turnip kicked your dumb asses from Delaware to D.C.

                              So you rioted. Real smart move, Cletus.

                              Five Americans are dead. Barricades have been erected around the Capitol. Thousands of federal troops have been deployed to the streets of Washington. State capitols have been obliged to prepare for siege. Americans blame you for this — and they are not wrong.

                              “Trust the plan,” the QAnon cultists say. Is this what you were planning? I know you are stupid, but you are not that stupid.

                              “Oh, but he fights!” you’ll say — over and over and over. He didn’t fight — he tweeted. He’s ten feet tall on social media and a pushover in real life. Trade deficit: up. Unemployment rate: rising. Abortion rate: rising. Beijing: rising. The coronavirus body-count: rising.

                              But he sure did tweet a lot!

                              And he pardoned Roger Stone — at least he took care of that pressing national priority.

                              “But the judges!” you protest. Fair point: Trump’s absurd attempts to overturn the election through specious legal challenges were laughed out of court by the very men and women he appointed to the bench. Even his judges think he’s a joke.

                              Everybody has figured that out. Except you.

                              And so, goodbye, Donald J. Trump, the man who wanted to be Conrad Hilton but turned out to be Paris Hilton. Au revoir, Ivanka and Jared, Uday and Qusay — there’s a table for four reserved for you at Dorsia. So long, Melania — it’s still not entirely clear what you got out of this, but I hope it was worth it. A fond farewell to Ted Cruz’s reputation and Mike Pence’s self-respect, Lindsey Graham’s manhood and Fox News’s business model. In with “Dr.” Jill Biden, out with “Dr.” Sebastian Gorka.

                              Good night, ladies, good night, sweet ladies, good night, good night.

                              I’m sure we’ll all meet again. But I’d really rather we didn’t..

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                              Loki
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #19

                              I see now that he is a conservative. We can easily keep this thread alive with Kevin’s musings on democrats. He is a prolific writer. Tough to embrace holistically but great for harvesting chunks of his writings no matter what side you are on.

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                                Horace
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #20

                                Yes, he was always a conservative. That's why I posted originally that he probably voted third party in 2016.

                                But his business is rhetoric and social viability, so hating Trump is the obvious move.

                                Education is extremely important.

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