No shows at the sendoff.

[Mik]

He’s quickly becoming a pariah.

[George K]

@mik interesting, no?

I guess these people see that they should give no "loyalty" because there's really no upside to it for them. Particularly when it comes to the Wrongthink Police who are already sharpening their knives.

[Horace]

He became peak pariah the moment the group of imbeciles raided the Capitol. Way too much rhetorical fuel behind the reaction against that, even if that reaction is generally totally hypocritical. You have to play by the rules of the game, unless you're suicidal. The lucky ones lack self- awareness about the degree to which the rules of the game are actually the rules of their own psyche.

[Aqua Letifer]

Showing loyalty to a guy who incited an invasion will have its consequences.

[Horace]

If only the Capitol hadn't been largely unguarded. Now how the heck did that ever happen?

[jon-nyc]

@george-k said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@mik interesting, no?

I guess these people see that they should give no "loyalty" because there's really no upside to it for them. Particularly when it comes to the Wrongthink Police who are already sharpening their knives.

You think John Kelly isn't going because he is worried about the Wrongthink police? Or because he genuinely thinks the man and his presidency are a disgrace?

[George K]

@jon-nyc said in No shows at the sendoff.:

You think John Kelly isn't going because he is worried about the Wrongthink police? Or because he genuinely thinks the man and his presidency are a disgrace?

I'll concede Kelly and probably some others as well. However, in the lower tiers of people who have deserted broken ranks, I'd guess that they're thinking, "Nah...not worth it."

[xenon]

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

If only the Capitol hadn't been largely unguarded. Now how the heck did that ever happen?

General McChrystal had an interesting take here on Sam Harris's latest podcast.

Basically he said it was a failure of imagination (and gave the analogy of 9/11). They'll have to lock the cockpit door now.

The cops there have seen protest after protest for years and no one even approached the metal barriers in the past.

It was just something they didn't think Americans did.

[Axtremus]

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

General McChrystal had an interesting take here on Sam Harris's latest podcast.

Basically he said it was a failure of imagination (and gave the analogy of 9/11). They'll have to lock the cockpit door now.

The cops there have seen protest after protest for years and no one even approached the metal barriers in the past.

It was just something they didn't think Americans did.

A round about way of saying those invaded the Capitol were unAmerican.

[Horace]

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

If only the Capitol hadn't been largely unguarded. Now how the heck did that ever happen?

General McChrystal had an interesting take here on Sam Harris's latest podcast.

Basically he said it was a failure of imagination (and gave the analogy of 9/11). They'll have to lock the cockpit door now.

I've made that analogy at least a couple times here on TNCR. I'm rather proud of it, I think it gets to the heart of an important matter. It's never been responded to.

The cops there have seen protest after protest for years and no one even approached the metal barriers in the past.

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?

I don't think so.

[xenon]

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?
I don't think so.

Im talking specifically about the cops at the Capitol building.

[Loki]

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

If only the Capitol hadn't been largely unguarded. Now how the heck did that ever happen?

General McChrystal had an interesting take here on Sam Harris's latest podcast.

Basically he said it was a failure of imagination (and gave the analogy of 9/11). They'll have to lock the cockpit door now.

I've made that analogy at least a couple times here on TNCR. I'm rather proud of it, I think it gets to the heart of an important matter. It's never been responded to.

The cops there have seen protest after protest for years and no one even approached the metal barriers in the past.

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?

I don't think so.

We’ve been told that the FBI had accumulated significant threat intelligence. So what did the Capitol police do with it or was the intel just normal chatter and the news thus overblown or did the Capitol police not get that assessment?

[Horace]

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?
I don't think so.

Im talking specifically about the cops at the Capitol building.

Why are they different?

[Axtremus]

@jon-nyc said in No shows at the sendoff.:

You think John Kelly isn't going because he is worried about the Wrongthink police? Or because he genuinely thinks the man and his presidency are a disgrace?

I am also not going to Trump’s send off party. For one, I am not invited to that party. But I also genuinely think Trump and his presidency are a disgrace.

At this time, it’s probably more interesting to talk about who will be going to Teump’s send off party. E.g., will Sen. Hawley and Sen. Cruz be going?

[Renauda]

I'm sure that Roger Stone, Mike Flynn and the young Jared Kushner's recently pardoned daddy will drop by and show their support for the outgoing Toddler and Chief. It's the least they can do to show their heartfelt gratitude.

[xenon]

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?
I don't think so.

Im talking specifically about the cops at the Capitol building.

Why are they different?

Because some other police forces last summer faced the most "under the microscope" clashes with protesters ever. (Mass protests against police being filmed by thousands of smartphone cameras in the frontlines)

I don't think the police at the capitol building have really ever had to deal with holding back throngs of people.

It was probably bewildering the first time this happened (in recent history).

[Loki]

Weird how much more Trump news there is than Biden news. I wonder if that will continue?

[Horace]

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@xenon said in No shows at the sendoff.:

@horace said in No shows at the sendoff.:

So that's it? Cops never felt threatened? Cops never felt hamstrung in their ability to do their jobs? It's just that they never felt threatened?
I don't think so.

Im talking specifically about the cops at the Capitol building.

Why are they different?

Because some other police forces last summer faced the most "under the microscope" clashes with protesters ever. (Mass protests against police being filmed by thousands of smartphone cameras in the frontlines)

I don't think the police at the capitol building have really ever had to deal with holding back throngs of people.

It was probably bewildering the first time this happened (in recent history).

I think they have similar pay scales, similar social standing, and similar solidadarity.

[Horace]

@loki said in No shows at the sendoff.:

Weird how much more Trump news there is than Biden news. I wonder if that will continue?

Everybody already knows that Biden is a punk, especially those who were threatened by Trump.

[xenon]

@loki said in No shows at the sendoff.:

Weird how much more Trump news there is than Biden news. I wonder if that will continue?

A politician in political office is hardly interesting.