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  • jon-nycJ Offline
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    jon-nyc
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    #60

    We talked about gyms.

    How about nail salons? Doesn’t it seem just a matter of time until the nail lady gets it from a customer? They spend, what, 15+ minutes face to face in pretty close quarters with each successive customer? Even with masks on that’s a lot of time. Then when the employee gets it they spend some number of infectious asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic days that close to numerous customers.

    Strikes me as up there with gyms on the list of places that I wouldn’t open on the first wave.

    Only non-witches get due process.

    • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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      From our local (400 feet away from my place) grocer:

      "Dear Shoppers,

      It is our duty to report that an employee tested positive for COVID-19 today, April 23rd. We have consulted with the health department and our particular situation has been deemed a 'low risk' exposure, and have been cleared to stay open. We have since conducted a deep sanitation to the best of our ability and have scheduled a professional COVID santitation cleaning for tomorrow afternoon. As we did not want to leave anyone in the community without any needed goods, we will remain open for limited hours tomorrow, April 24th, from 8AM-1PM. During this time, we will be offering curbside pickup so that customers do not need to enter into the store if they so choose.

      We will reopen on Saturday, April 25th at 7:30AM. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for your understanding."

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        #62

        I remember the halcyon days of late March and early April when the grocery stores would bother to tell us those things.

        Only non-witches get due process.

        • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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        • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

          I remember the halcyon days of late March and early April when the grocery stores would bother to tell us those things.

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          #63

          @jon-nyc this grocer, by the way, is offering free masks and gloves for all of its patrons when they enter the store.

          "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

          The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            We talked about gyms.

            How about nail salons? Doesn’t it seem just a matter of time until the nail lady gets it from a customer? They spend, what, 15+ minutes face to face in pretty close quarters with each successive customer? Even with masks on that’s a lot of time. Then when the employee gets it they spend some number of infectious asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic days that close to numerous customers.

            Strikes me as up there with gyms on the list of places that I wouldn’t open on the first wave.

            HoraceH Offline
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            Horace
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            #64

            @jon-nyc said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

            We talked about gyms.

            How about nail salons? Doesn’t it seem just a matter of time until the nail lady gets it from a customer? They spend, what, 15+ minutes face to face in pretty close quarters with each successive customer? Even with masks on that’s a lot of time. Then when the employee gets it they spend some number of infectious asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic days that close to numerous customers.

            Strikes me as up there with gyms on the list of places that I wouldn’t open on the first wave.

            Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

            I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

              I remember the halcyon days of late March and early April when the grocery stores would bother to tell us those things.

              HoraceH Offline
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              Horace
              wrote on last edited by
              #65

              @jon-nyc said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

              I remember the halcyon days of late March and early April when the grocery stores would bother to tell us those things.

              Considering how prevalent the virus has proven to be, it is clearly absurd to worry much about that sort of thing now.

              Education is extremely important.

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                This Long Term Care facility is adjacent to my old neighborhood that I moved out of last summer. My cousin's father-in-law lives there.

                https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/dulles-health-rehab-center-coronavirus-deaths-long-term-care-virginia/65-bfa204e9-a68c-435a-a96d-dde7f44e8237

                @wusa9 said >

                11 Dulles Health and Rehab Center patients die from coronavirus
                The facility's first positive test was on March 28, and now 63 patients and 19 staff have tested positive for coronavirus.
                HERNDON, Va. — Long-term care facilities across the DMV have been hit hard by the spread of coronavirus. In Virginia, long-term care facilities have the highest number of COVID-19 cases and deaths compared to any other setting.

                Dulles Health and Rehab Center in Herndon is the latest long-term care facility in the Commonwealth to report COVID-19 cases. A spokesperson said 11 patients have died from COVID-related complications, either at the facility or once they were sent to a hospital.

                The facility's first positive case was reported on March 28, and since then 63 patients and 19 staff members have tested positive.

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                • HoraceH Horace

                  @jon-nyc said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                  We talked about gyms.

                  How about nail salons? Doesn’t it seem just a matter of time until the nail lady gets it from a customer? They spend, what, 15+ minutes face to face in pretty close quarters with each successive customer? Even with masks on that’s a lot of time. Then when the employee gets it they spend some number of infectious asymptomatic or pre-symptomatic days that close to numerous customers.

                  Strikes me as up there with gyms on the list of places that I wouldn’t open on the first wave.

                  Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

                  I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

                  jon-nycJ Offline
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                  jon-nyc
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #67

                  @Horace said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                  Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

                  I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

                  Too funny, I started this post with ‘Copper’, thinking this was his post, had to go back and edit when I noticed it was actually you.

                  Anyway I’m not all that worried about massive deaths in nail salons, these Vietnamese slave girls tend to be quite young.

                  It’s more the thought process of the governor. One would think the early waves would be businesses with lots of economic bang for your epidemiological buck, and I don’t see how nail salons fit that bill.

                  Only non-witches get due process.

                  • Cotton Mather, Salem Massachusetts, 1692
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                  • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                    @Horace said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                    Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

                    I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

                    Too funny, I started this post with ‘Copper’, thinking this was his post, had to go back and edit when I noticed it was actually you.

                    Anyway I’m not all that worried about massive deaths in nail salons, these Vietnamese slave girls tend to be quite young.

                    It’s more the thought process of the governor. One would think the early waves would be businesses with lots of economic bang for your epidemiological buck, and I don’t see how nail salons fit that bill.

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                    Axtremus
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #68

                    @jon-nyc said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                    Anyway I’m not all that worried about massive deaths in nail salons, these Vietnamese slave girls tend to be quite young.

                    It’s more the thought process of the governor. One would think the early waves would be businesses with lots of economic bang for your epidemiological buck, and I don’t see how nail salons fit that bill.

                    Maybe the Governor or Georgia just have a special soft spot for some of the young Vietnamese slave girls’ livelihood, maybe someone very near and dear to him desperately needs to get his/her nails done?

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                    • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

                      @Horace said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                      Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

                      I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

                      Too funny, I started this post with ‘Copper’, thinking this was his post, had to go back and edit when I noticed it was actually you.

                      Anyway I’m not all that worried about massive deaths in nail salons, these Vietnamese slave girls tend to be quite young.

                      It’s more the thought process of the governor. One would think the early waves would be businesses with lots of economic bang for your epidemiological buck, and I don’t see how nail salons fit that bill.

                      HoraceH Offline
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                      Horace
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #69

                      @jon-nyc said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                      @Horace said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                      Nail salons? More like coffin nail salons, if people go there these days, if you know what I mean.

                      I mean people will die if they go to nail salons.

                      Too funny, I started this post with ‘Copper’, thinking this was his post, had to go back and edit when I noticed it was actually you.

                      That just shows your inability to discriminate between people outside your tribe. "More like" is my wording.

                      Education is extremely important.

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                      • MikM Offline
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                        #70

                        Ohio is leading the way again. DeWine has enlisted Ohio companies to massively increase testing supplies and capability during May. By May 13 we should be able to test 18,000 a day and it will go up from there. he enlisted former governors Dick Celeste and Robert Taft to help him (why not Strickland and Kasich, I wonder? both more recent) make the calls to make these things happen.

                        Personally I think 50 powerful governors can make more happen for their citizens than one federal government. So I'm with Jon on this.

                        “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                        • MikM Mik

                          Ohio is leading the way again. DeWine has enlisted Ohio companies to massively increase testing supplies and capability during May. By May 13 we should be able to test 18,000 a day and it will go up from there. he enlisted former governors Dick Celeste and Robert Taft to help him (why not Strickland and Kasich, I wonder? both more recent) make the calls to make these things happen.

                          Personally I think 50 powerful governors can make more happen for their citizens than one federal government. So I'm with Jon on this.

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                          Axtremus
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                          #71

                          @Mik said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                          Personally I think 50 powerful governors can make more happen for their citizens than one federal government.

                          The Governors themselves need to be competent. 50 DeWines will yield results that are very different from 50 DeSantises or 50 Kemps.

                          Overall results can be significantly improved if the 50 Governors have a competent federal government to work with.

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                            As usual, you miss the point entirely in your TDS. Regardless of individual competence, the 50 governors will accomplish more than the federal government.

                            “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                            • MikM Mik

                              As usual, you miss the point entirely in your TDS. Regardless of individual competence, the 50 governors will accomplish more than the federal government.

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                              Axtremus
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                              #73

                              @Mik said in Georgia with an interesting experiment:

                              Regardless of individual competence, the 50 governors will accomplish more than the federal government.

                              Seriously, individual competence doesn't matter? You don't think "50 DeWines" are going to accomplish very different results than "50 Kemps" or "50 DeSantises"?

                              Do you still believe in the "power of the individual"? If the individual's competence does not matter, where does the "power of the individual" come from?

                              You are lucky to have a DeWine. But if you've got a Kemp or a DeSantis, you should hope that there are competent FEMA, FDA, CDC, and HHS to back you up.

                              Even if you have a DeWine, think how much better things can be if there is an FDA that could supply DeWine with the testing capacity he asks for.

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                                Infectious-Disease Experts Expect A Surge In Georgia’s COVID-19 Cases

                                On April 23, Georgia partially reopened for business, and stay-at-home restrictions have continued to be lifted across the state. The seven-day moving average for newly confirmed cases in the Peach State stood at just over 700 per day on April 20. Experts were asked to predict the new daily case average for the week ending on May 16 under the current open regime, along with the daily case average had Georgia not relaxed its stay-at-home orders.

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                                The consensus forecast of 1,044 new confirmed cases per day in two weeks suggests that Georgia will see a substantial worsening of the virus’s spread as a result of reopening. The daily number of new confirmed cases is forecast to be somewhere between 579 and 2,292, with six experts indicating that an increase to 2,000 or more new cases a day is plausible.

                                "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                                The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                                  One thing I can tell you with certainty is the Georgia test labs take the weekends off.

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                                  Only non-witches get due process.

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