So... what will be the fallout?
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@copper said in So... what will be the fallout?:
I wonder if it will be possible to say Trump right out loud.
Around these parts, you'd have as much success attempting a conversation that included pros and cons of Trump, as an attempt at having such a conversation about Hitler.
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@copper said in So... what will be the fallout?:
I wonder if it will be possible to say Trump right out loud.
You laugh, but hate speech legislation is coming...
@jolly said in So... what will be the fallout?:
@copper said in So... what will be the fallout?:
I wonder if it will be possible to say Trump right out loud.
You laugh, but hate speech legislation is coming...
I think so too.
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@jolly said in So... what will be the fallout?:
@copper said in So... what will be the fallout?:
I wonder if it will be possible to say Trump right out loud.
You laugh, but hate speech legislation is coming...
I think so too.
@mik said in So... what will be the fallout?:
@jolly said in So... what will be the fallout?:
@copper said in So... what will be the fallout?:
I wonder if it will be possible to say Trump right out loud.
You laugh, but hate speech legislation is coming...
I think so too.
That will have to wait until the Hate Trump movement dies down a little.
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Freedom of association.
If not codified in law, you can lose your current job and be denied future employment based on whom you associate with.
Freedom of religion.
Baptists and Catholics and conservative Lutherans will be prohibited from preaching taboo subjects, because they're hateful.
Freedom from unlawful search.
Already WhatsApp and others are tracking your location, your associations, even the battery status of your devices.
"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08
The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.
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@george-k said in So... what will be the fallout?:
Sure, of course. This is the banality of evil. Pop culture. It's what I've been talking about for years. These are not good people, except when they talk about how good they are in their own heads, to the mirror, and to their fellow indoctrinated high status folk.
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Freedom of association.
If not codified in law, you can lose your current job and be denied future employment based on whom you associate with.
Freedom of religion.
Baptists and Catholics and conservative Lutherans will be prohibited from preaching taboo subjects, because they're hateful.
Freedom from unlawful search.
Already WhatsApp and others are tracking your location, your associations, even the battery status of your devices.
@george-k said in So... what will be the fallout?:
Freedom of association.
If not codified in law, you can lose your current job and be denied future employment based on whom you associate with.
It has always been thus. Too many friends or too many business associations with people with ties to some Russian or Chinese communist government or Islamic countries? You're deemed unfit for certain jobs and you have to go. Remember Diane Feinstein's driver who was contacted by some Chinese people who allegedly have ties with the Chinese government? The driver did not initiate contact, the driver was being contacted by someone else, the FBI interviewed the driver and found no wrong-doing on the driver's part, yet the driver had to be let go and there was no lack of voices from the Republican/Conservative side of the spectrum chastising Feinstein for not letting the driver go sooner. All these happened months before the Capitol protest, and the Republicans/Conservatives have no qualms forcing people to lose their jobs due to them being associated with the wrong people.
Freedom of religion.
What? Like the local mosques and the muslim citizens getting extra attention from the FBI? That sort of things has been happening for a long time too.
Baptists and Catholics and conservative Lutherans will be prohibited from preaching taboo subjects, because they're hateful.
This I am interested to read more about. Please elaborate more on what "taboo subjects" you have in mind and why you singled out those three denominations.
Freedom from unlawful search.
Already WhatsApp and others are tracking your location, your associations, even the battery status of your devices.
Edward Snowden made huge personal sacrifice to warn the American people about this sort of electronic surveillance. Snowden should have been awarded medals and our elected government should have make it very clear that such electronic surveillance programs should be shutdown and never be used against Americans without very strict judicial oversight (i.e., you must get a warrant, you must meet very high evidentiary bar to get a warrant, you will be penalized heavily if you surveil without a warrant, etc.) Both parties and both the Obama administration and the Trump administration failed to come up with the right electronic surveillance policy and they all reacted to the Snowden saga incorrectly. I am not hopeful that this will get better, with or without the recent Capitol incident.
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@george-k said in So... what will be the fallout?:
Freedom of association.
If not codified in law, you can lose your current job and be denied future employment based on whom you associate with.
It has always been thus. Too many friends or too many business associations with people with ties to some Russian or Chinese communist government or Islamic countries? You're deemed unfit for certain jobs and you have to go. Remember Diane Feinstein's driver who was contacted by some Chinese people who allegedly have ties with the Chinese government? The driver did not initiate contact, the driver was being contacted by someone else, the FBI interviewed the driver and found no wrong-doing on the driver's part, yet the driver had to be let go and there was no lack of voices from the Republican/Conservative side of the spectrum chastising Feinstein for not letting the driver go sooner. All these happened months before the Capitol protest, and the Republicans/Conservatives have no qualms forcing people to lose their jobs due to them being associated with the wrong people.
Freedom of religion.
What? Like the local mosques and the muslim citizens getting extra attention from the FBI? That sort of things has been happening for a long time too.
Baptists and Catholics and conservative Lutherans will be prohibited from preaching taboo subjects, because they're hateful.
This I am interested to read more about. Please elaborate more on what "taboo subjects" you have in mind and why you singled out those three denominations.
Freedom from unlawful search.
Already WhatsApp and others are tracking your location, your associations, even the battery status of your devices.
Edward Snowden made huge personal sacrifice to warn the American people about this sort of electronic surveillance. Snowden should have been awarded medals and our elected government should have make it very clear that such electronic surveillance programs should be shutdown and never be used against Americans without very strict judicial oversight (i.e., you must get a warrant, you must meet very high evidentiary bar to get a warrant, you will be penalized heavily if you surveil without a warrant, etc.) Both parties and both the Obama administration and the Trump administration failed to come up with the right electronic surveillance policy and they all reacted to the Snowden saga incorrectly. I am not hopeful that this will get better, with or without the recent Capitol incident.
@axtremus said in So... what will be the fallout?:
Edward Snowden made huge personal sacrifice to warn the American people about this sort of electronic surveillance.
At the time, all anyone wanted to talk about here was how much of a traitor he was. His revelations weren't deemed important by anybody.
