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Political violence is always wrong

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  • MikM Away
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    On.

    The.

    Money.

    "The intelligent man who is proud of his intelligence is like the condemned man who is proud of his large cell." Simone Weil

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    • L Loki

      Um good luck with bi-partisan agreement on that.

      Some people are entitled to violence. It’s in the woke handbook.

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      @loki said in Political violence is always wrong:

      Um good luck with bi-partisan agreement on that.

      Some people are entitled to violence. It’s in the woke handbook.

      Well meaning people will try and justify the idiots on their team. I suspect Tucker will express some sympathy for the passion that the people yesterday expressed even as he condemns their methods. It is a way of blaming the "other side." BLM apologists do the same. There may be justification for frustration or protest - but not for violence and disregard of personal property. I was supremely furious at what the looters/riorters did last summer - and frankly would not have objected a heavier hand in putting it down. Same thing for yesterday's clowns.

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        @loki said in Political violence is always wrong:

        Um good luck with bi-partisan agreement on that.

        Some people are entitled to violence. It’s in the woke handbook.

        Well meaning people will try and justify the idiots on their team. I suspect Tucker will express some sympathy for the passion that the people yesterday expressed even as he condemns their methods. It is a way of blaming the "other side." BLM apologists do the same. There may be justification for frustration or protest - but not for violence and disregard of personal property. I was supremely furious at what the looters/riorters did last summer - and frankly would not have objected a heavier hand in putting it down. Same thing for yesterday's clowns.

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        @kluurs said in Political violence is always wrong:

        @loki said in Political violence is always wrong:

        I suspect Tucker will express some sympathy for the passion that the people yesterday expressed even as he condemns their methods.

        He was mostly condemning last night

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          It’s all true but comes across as soft whattaboutism today.

          Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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          • jon-nycJ jon-nyc

            It’s all true but comes across as soft whattaboutism today.

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            @jon-nyc said in Political violence is always wrong:

            It’s all true but comes across as soft whattaboutism today.

            Except if the behavior is tolerated it is tolerated. The 10’s of billions of dollars of damage this year got a giant shrug.

            You reap what you sow. If that’s part of whataboutism it becomes truly meaningless.

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            • L Loki

              @jon-nyc said in Political violence is always wrong:

              It’s all true but comes across as soft whattaboutism today.

              Except if the behavior is tolerated it is tolerated. The 10’s of billions of dollars of damage this year got a giant shrug.

              You reap what you sow. If that’s part of whataboutism it becomes truly meaningless.

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              @loki said in Political violence is always wrong:

              Except if the behavior is tolerated it is tolerated. The 10’s of billions of dollars of damage this year got a giant shrug.

              Exactly. It was condoned, ignored, and even praised.

              Even the Vice-President Elect said they should continue.

              In what universe can you countenance that?

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                @george-k

                I don’t, as you well know.

                I just pointed out that the tweeter phrasing it this way is like the Soviets trying to rephrase our UN resolutions to a call for ‘restraint on all sides’. It’s not that it’s false, it just is deliberately dilutive.

                Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                  @george-k said in Political violence is always wrong:

                  Read it all

                  Not generalizable.

                  Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Revolutionary War render the ideology of a democratic republic irrelevant?

                  Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Civil War rendered the ideology of emancipation irrelevant?

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                    One thing I’ve noticed through this whole post-election episode is the the right is quite good at finding a sufficiently low-resolution framing that allows them an equivalence claim.

                    Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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                    • AxtremusA Axtremus

                      @george-k said in Political violence is always wrong:

                      Read it all

                      Not generalizable.

                      Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Revolutionary War render the ideology of a democratic republic irrelevant?

                      Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Civil War rendered the ideology of emancipation irrelevant?

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                      @axtremus said in Political violence is always wrong:

                      @george-k said in Political violence is always wrong:

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                      Not generalizable.

                      Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Revolutionary War render the ideology of a democratic republic irrelevant?

                      Did the violence and property destruction caused by the Civil War rendered the ideology of emancipation irrelevant?

                      Good point

                      Political violence is required from time to time

                      Does that make it right?

                      That depends on which side you are on and your tolerance for hypocrisy

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