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Rolling out the vaccine.

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    Copper
    wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 17:00 last edited by
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    And then the vaccine-making business will mutate.

    New ones will be developed daily.

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      27 Nov 2020, 16:53

      OTOH...Who knows what normal will be? Viruses mutate and viruses gotta virus...

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      Aqua Letifer
      wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 17:11 last edited by
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      @Jolly said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

      OTOH...Who knows what normal will be? Viruses mutate and viruses gotta virus...

      On the other hand it might attenuate.

      Please love yourself.

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        LuFins Dad
        wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 17:19 last edited by
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        Frankly, I’m not all that amped to take a vaccine that has been fast-tracked through approval processes that exist for a reason, and I’m definitely not amped up to get my kids a fast tracked vaccine for a sickness that likely won’t affect them seriously. Yes, there are cases like George’s daughter, but those are the exceptions and not the rule... Before I make a risk/reward analysis for my family and our decisions, I need to see some numbers.

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          jon-nyc
          wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 17:24 last edited by
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          What numbers do you want to see? Adverse events at two months? Six months? A year? Two years?

          My guess is the six month data will be available before you’d come up in the queue. Maybe even the 1 year.

          Only non-witches get due process.

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          • L LuFins Dad
            27 Nov 2020, 17:19

            Frankly, I’m not all that amped to take a vaccine that has been fast-tracked through approval processes that exist for a reason, and I’m definitely not amped up to get my kids a fast tracked vaccine for a sickness that likely won’t affect them seriously. Yes, there are cases like George’s daughter, but those are the exceptions and not the rule... Before I make a risk/reward analysis for my family and our decisions, I need to see some numbers.

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            Loki
            wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 17:26 last edited by
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            @LuFins-Dad said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

            Frankly, I’m not all that amped to take a vaccine that has been fast-tracked through approval processes that exist for a reason, and I’m definitely not amped up to get my kids a fast tracked vaccine for a sickness that likely won’t affect them seriously. Yes, there are cases like George’s daughter, but those are the exceptions and not the rule... Before I make a risk/reward analysis for my family and our decisions, I need to see some numbers.

            The issue is if you don’t take the vaccine you can not just get it but spread to others who will eventually as it spreads find a deadly target. Also it slows this country getting back to normal which means high unemployment, higher taxes and eventually more people for losing their jobs.

            Now see how that little fear has big downstream consequences? A butterfly flaps its wings in Chicago which results in a thunderstorm in the NorthEast.

            Now if you are willing to isolate yourself permanently I say do whatever you want to do.

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              MainerMikeBrown
              wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 21:28 last edited by
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              Once they do come out with one or more vaccines for the coronavirus, I hope they're safe. I hope they know enough about it before approving it. I hope they don't rush too fast, as I don't want to get a vaccine that isn't safe.

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              • M MainerMikeBrown
                27 Nov 2020, 21:28

                Once they do come out with one or more vaccines for the coronavirus, I hope they're safe. I hope they know enough about it before approving it. I hope they don't rush too fast, as I don't want to get a vaccine that isn't safe.

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                Rainman
                wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 22:57 last edited by
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                @MainerMikeBrown said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                Once they do come out with one or more vaccines for the coronavirus, I hope they're safe. I hope they know enough about it before approving it. I hope they don't rush too fast, as I don't want to get a vaccine that isn't safe.

                Yup. I agree with all of the above.

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                  Mik
                  wrote on 27 Nov 2020, 23:23 last edited by Mik
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                  What they are doing is running processes in parallel. In other words they are committing resources to activities that in normal circumstances would be done sequentially, based on confidence the what would be predecessor steps will be successful. This is true of both the Pharma companies and FDA. It’s a very expensive way to approach an already hugely expensive process.

                  “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                    George K
                    wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 02:48 last edited by
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                    “Train Amazon delivery drivers to administer the vaccine. The nation will be fully vaccinated by Saturday, Wednesday if you have Prime.”

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                    • G George K
                      8 Jan 2021, 02:48

                      “Train Amazon delivery drivers to administer the vaccine. The nation will be fully vaccinated by Saturday, Wednesday if you have Prime.”

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                      Rainman
                      wrote on 8 Jan 2021, 03:56 last edited by
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                      @george-k said in Rolling out the vaccine.:

                      “Train Amazon delivery drivers to administer the vaccine. The nation will be fully vaccinated by Saturday, Wednesday if you have Prime.”

                      🤓 😷 😜 😬 🤥 👏

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                        George K
                        wrote on 20 Jan 2021, 22:14 last edited by
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                        "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                        The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                          Copper
                          wrote on 20 Jan 2021, 23:33 last edited by
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                          Already trying to bribe the president.

                          Nice

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                            Rainman
                            wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 03:56 last edited by
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                            Interesting there are approximately 3 times in the letter, where Amazon was going to be helpful. If not 3, Ax will count and correct, or attribute meaning for the marginal sentences. Let's say 3.
                            3 it is. OK, 3.

                            Seems he could have just added ". . . or else" after the first or second pledge for Amazon to help.

                            But then again, aging Joe might need things repeated a few times, and then hopefully someone in his cabinet will explain what "between the lines" means. Or Hunter, certainly he could explain if necessary.

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                              George K
                              wrote on 21 Jan 2021, 12:18 last edited by
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                              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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