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    Copper
    wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:04 last edited by Copper 1 May 2021, 23:06
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    Now we are getting to know the possible next VP

    Nice

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-fweedom-stroller-story-plagiarism-mlk

    Kamala Harris repeatedly told 'fweedom' story now facing plagiarism accusations

    Vice President-elect Kamala Harris has previously told the anecdote about her younger self crying out for "Fweedom!" — which has sparked accusations of plagiarism — in her books.

    "My mother used to laugh when she told the story about a time I was fussing as a toddler: She leaned down to me and asked, 'Kamala, what's wrong? What do you want?' And I wailed back, 'Fweedom,'" Harris wrote in her 2010 book "Smart on Crime."

    Harris also detailed her younger self demanding "Fweedom!" in her 2019 book "The Truths We Hold: An American Journey."

    Harris apparently appropriated an anecdote first told by civil rights icon Martin Luther King Jr. when she was interviewed by Elle Magazine for a feature that was published in October, at the height of the 2020 presidential election race.

    Harris has repeatedly boasted of her parents' involvement in the civil rights movement of the 1960s. In the Elle interview, she recalled accompanying them to marches as a toddler in a stroller.

    "Senator Kamala Harris started her life’s work young," writer Ashley C. Ford led off the piece. "She laughs from her gut, the way you would with family, as she remembers being wheeled through an Oakland, California, civil rights march in a stroller with no straps with her parents and her uncle. At some point, she fell from the stroller ... and the adults, caught up in the rapture of protest, just kept on marching. By the time they noticed little Kamala was gone and doubled back, she was understandably upset."

    "My mother tells the story about how I’m fussing," Harris told the magazine. "And she’s like, ‘Baby, what do you want? What do you need?’ And I just looked at her and I said, ‘Fweedom.’"

    After the interview resurfaced Monday, Twitter user @EngelsFreddie and Andray Domise, contributing editor of the Canadian publication Maclean's, noted that Harris' story resembled one told by King in a 1965 interview published in Playboy.
    "I will never forget a moment in Birmingham when a White policeman accosted a little Negro girl, seven or eight years old, who was walking in a demonstration with her mother," King said at the time. "'What do you want?' the policeman asked her gruffly, and the little girl looked at him straight in the eye and answered, 'Fee-dom.' She couldn't even pronounce it, but she knew. It was beautiful! Many times when I have been in sorely trying situations, the memory of that little one has come into my mind, and has buoyed me."

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      George K
      wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:05 last edited by
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      I have no opinion whether she plagiarized this or not.

      But, if she did, she's the perfect companion for Joe.

      "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

      The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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        kluurs
        wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:10 last edited by
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        Who knows? Still a better story than Hillary's heroic dodging bullets on the tarmac riff.

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          Mik
          wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:11 last edited by
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          Most people have a personal mythology they have told for so long they have come to believe it themselves.

          “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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          • M Mik
            5 Jan 2021, 23:11

            Most people have a personal mythology they have told for so long they have come to believe it themselves.

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            Horace
            wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:12 last edited by
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            @mik said in fweedom:

            Most people have a personal mythology they have told for so long they have come to believe it themselves.

            Especially politicians.

            Education is extremely important.

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            • K kluurs
              5 Jan 2021, 23:10

              Who knows? Still a better story than Hillary's heroic dodging bullets on the tarmac riff.

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              George K
              wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:14 last edited by
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              @kluurs said in fweedom:

              Who knows? Still a better story than Hillary's heroic dodging bullets on the tarmac riff.

              I'll see your "dodging bullets" post and raise you "I was named after the mountain climber."

              "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

              The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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                Mik
                wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:32 last edited by
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                This could be a really long lived thread.

                “I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.” ~Winston S. Churchill

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                • G George K
                  5 Jan 2021, 23:14

                  @kluurs said in fweedom:

                  Who knows? Still a better story than Hillary's heroic dodging bullets on the tarmac riff.

                  I'll see your "dodging bullets" post and raise you "I was named after the mountain climber."

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                  kluurs
                  wrote on 5 Jan 2021, 23:57 last edited by
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                  @george-k When history does an evaluation of the Trump Presidency, one positive should be that we didn't get to listen to Hillary for 4 years. If we had, I suspect James Earl Jones would be our President-elect at this point.

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                    5 Jan 2021, 23:57

                    @george-k When history does an evaluation of the Trump Presidency, one positive should be that we didn't get to listen to Hillary for 4 years. If we had, I suspect James Earl Jones would be our President-elect at this point.

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                    George K
                    wrote on 6 Jan 2021, 00:15 last edited by
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                    @kluurs said in fweedom:

                    James Earl Jones

                    Do you think that, if he had said, "Make America Great Again," it would have gone over any better.

                    Because, gravitas....

                    "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08

                    The saying, "Lite is just one damn thing after another," is a gross understatement. The damn things overlap.

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